Do you ever play with the nose of the bar?

Mike Perlowin RIP · Post by **Mike Perlowin RIP** » 6 Dec 2002 12:41 am

In the thread about BJS bars, some people mentioned they had the bars with the gemstones embedded. It seems to me that this might inhibit playing with the nose of the bar. I sometimes do that, although I never use the actual tip.

Does anybody else do this, and if so, do you use a bar with a gemstone, and does the stone affect your playing?

Chuck McGill · Post by **Chuck McGill** » 6 Dec 2002 1:34 am

Mike I guess Bill thought of this. He positioned the stone so you can use the nose
of the bar without a problem. I use the nose
of mine for single note runs that end up being sloppy but it has nothing to do with
my BJS bar.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 6 Dec 2002 2:29 am

Well, I've seen some players using the bar with the back end 'way up in the air...like at a 45 degree angle! With the nose tipped so far down, you might have a problem with that jewel...but I doubt it.

I personally don't find those steep angles necessary, though. A smaller angle (20-30 degrees) works just as well. The idea here is just to be hitting one or two strings, and to barely "clear" the rest of 'em.

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 6 Dec 2002 4:29 am

No, but sometimes I play with my nose at the bar. It's kinda disgusting but some chicks dig it...

Roy Thomson · Post by **Roy Thomson** » 6 Dec 2002 4:37 am

I have the BJS with birthstone and play a
lot of tipped steel notes.
Never had a problem.

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Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 6 Dec 2002 4:59 am

....I thought of a Bill Clinton/cigar joke here, but for decorum and not to contribute to topic drift, I'll resist the temptation....

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Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 6 Dec 2002 5:25 am

Gene, you're disappointing me. I thought I could always count on you...

Whip Lashaway · Post by **Whip Lashaway** » 6 Dec 2002 6:00 am

I have a birthstone in my BJS and I play with the tip all the time, no problem. You'd have to just about stand the bar up on end before you'd hit the stone.
Whip

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Jerry Hayes R.I.P. · Post by **Jerry Hayes R.I.P.** » 6 Dec 2002 6:37 am

Hey Mike,
I attempt to play some bluegrass tunes like Ol' Joe Clark etc. which uses hammer ons and pull offs with the tip of the bar. My BJS lost a stone from the tip one time but I don't know if that's what caused it. At Scotty's this year they replaced the stone for free and It's working great. I love this bar. I have 3 of them but I use the 10 string bar on my 12 string instead of the 12 string bar as it's too dang long. On swing stuff single note runs I use the tip also but as someone else said before, you really don't have to tip it up too awful much to do this.

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Dave Van Allen · Post by **Dave Van Allen** » 6 Dec 2002 7:02 am

gene, gene, gene...
you put me in mind of a gal I knew in my youth...a steel guitar bar, and a refrigerator all played into it somehow...

but for decorum and not to contribute to topic drift, I'll resist the temptation....

Jim West · Post by **Jim West** » 6 Dec 2002 7:25 am

I got my bar up my nose one time. Still haven't located it.

Andy Volk · Post by **Andy Volk** » 6 Dec 2002 7:44 am

There are a few chords I play in non-pedal C6th where the bar is vertical to the strings with the nose playing two strings while four or more open strings ring. Don't try this at home.

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 6 Dec 2002 9:13 am

..Dave, are you going to Dallas this year? I've got to hear that story!

Gene

Bob Shilling · Post by **Bob Shilling** » 6 Dec 2002 11:17 am

No gemstone, but I learned the first part of SGR with the tip playing the single note stuff, with hammer ons. Otherwise, I always play with the bar flat on the strings. And now we'll hear from the guys who don't like to play SGR.

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Reggie Duncan · Post by **Reggie Duncan** » 6 Dec 2002 12:17 pm

I tried using my nose, but playing by ear was a little less painful. At least, I could watch my right hand.

Seriously, I do raise my bar slightly at times, but not enough for the birthstone to be in the way. [This message was edited by Reggie Duncan on 07 December 2002 at 07:49 AM.]

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 6 Dec 2002 2:40 pm

Of course, doesn't everyone?

But seriously folks, I do single string/note runs with the bar raised slightly.

Of course, there are the times when I got so drunk that I tried playing my steel with the nose on my face

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Gordon Borland · Post by **Gordon Borland** » 6 Dec 2002 8:24 pm

Richard, you may have thought that was funny but its snot!

Tim Rowley · Post by **Tim Rowley** » 6 Dec 2002 8:41 pm

I use the tip of the bar to play a few of the older "non-pedal" type instrumentals. My bar is a 15/16" BJS without a birthstone. Works slick.

Tim R.

Perry Hansen · Post by **Perry Hansen** » 6 Dec 2002 9:22 pm

Gene. Are you sure you don't have the BJS bar, Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski kinda mixed up????

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 7 Dec 2002 8:42 am

Do I play with the noise of the bar? I get a lot of noise from my bar. It's a great bar (BJS 7/8" 10 string) so that's not the problem--I must not be pushing down hard enough.

Seriously, I've not gotten far enough along with the PSG to learn end-up or slant tricks.

Hey, wouldn't it be cool if instead of a gemstone someone put an LED in the nose of the bar? Yet another advancement in steel!

Reggie Duncan · Post by **Reggie Duncan** » 7 Dec 2002 11:15 am

Maybe a 15/16 would be a better size for you Bill.

Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 8 Dec 2002 2:33 pm

I hang at a lotta bars,& can play "musical nose. Now,let me explain. "Musical Nose" is a very versatile instrument 'cause,you can,either,pick it or blow it. (& you don't have to belong to ANY union to play it!)

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Smiley Roberts · Post by **Smiley Roberts** » 8 Dec 2002 2:37 pm

(geez,I hope I didn't offend nybody by that posting!

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