Creating a true PSG Tablature editor

Matthieu Leschemelle · Post by **Matthieu Leschemelle** » 30 Jul 2001 2:59 pm

Hello,

I am Matthieu Leschemelle. I've designed TablEdit, a tablature editing program which can be downloaded at http://www.tabledit.com/.

It's a very flexible program that is already handling special instruments as banjo, dulcimer, accordion, drum, flutes, etc...

I'm convinced TablEdit has the potential for managing "copedants" as well.

I've implemented some features for this purpose in 2000.

I know the program is perfectible. I just need advice from PSG experts,
printed tablature examples, etc...

If you want to help, please don't hesitate to contact me at matthieu@tabledit.com.

Thanks in advance.

Steve Feldman · Post by **Steve Feldman** » 30 Jul 2001 9:35 pm

Thanks for posting here, Matthieu. I downloaded TablEdit a while ago and was impressed with it. I think it does a lot of things that the other tab programs that I've seen don't, but there are some things that I think would make it better for steel.

I am out of town right now, but I will e-mail you some suggestions when I get back home this weekend.

Regards,
Steve Feldman

Chip Fossa · Post by **Chip Fossa** » 31 Jul 2001 4:33 am

Bonjour Matthieu,
Et souhaiter la bienvenue a la Forum
de la guitarre d'acier.

I have ranted and raved about Tabledit
here on the Forum on many occaisions, but only a handful of folks seemed interested.
Not only is Tabledit great for tablature guitar, but I've been transcribing the songs to the steel. Mostly, older ragtime numbers,
and Irish jigs, reels, and hornpipes.....
especially the works of Turlough O'Carolan.

It sure would be outstanding if you could get
steel to play properly on Tabledit.

Thanks again, for a great music program...

ChipsAhoy

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 31 Jul 2001 1:59 pm

Yes, Matthieu,Bienvenue to zee great Forum.
ça me fait enormement plaisir de te voir parmis nous. (
Si tu est branché "guitare d'acier" c"est içi.
i will look into your Tab program in depth soon.
Steel quoi ?

[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 31 July 2001 at 03:00 PM.]

Steve Feldman · Post by **Steve Feldman** » 31 Jul 2001 7:55 pm

What he said...

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 2 Aug 2001 8:41 am

Matt, Thank you for posting here.

As you know, pedal steel tablature requires that letters be placed into the tab. Although there is a standard 10 string E9 tuning that has evolved over the years, there are variations in pedal and knee lever set-ups. Most players use the letters A, B, C to denote the 3 standard pedal changes, and the letters D, E, F, G to denote the 4 standard knee lever changes. There are new knee lever changes in the past few years that have become popular, and there are variations among the players in knee lever set-ups.

In addition, all pedal steel tab that I have seen over the past 30 years places the numbers and the letters in the space, not on the line. Personally, I could easily switch over to placing the numbers (and letters) on the lines. It would be well worth it to have a complete tablature / notation program for pedal steel. It really makes more sense to have the numbers on the lines anyway.

If you want some samples of pedal steel tab w/notation, let me know where to snail mail them. I sent you a detailed email too. Thanks, DB

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[This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 02 August 2001 at 09:44 AM.]

Matthieu Leschemelle · Post by **Matthieu Leschemelle** » 4 Aug 2001 3:26 am

Hello All,

Thanks to all for the kind replies.

I think I have to be more explicit about the feedback I'm waiting for.

In its current state, TablEdit is already able to print and to play back any basic PSG tablature with (or without) the corresponding notation.

It manages the pedals and levers through the "Pitch Change" feature of the "Note" menu.

For a correct playback, you must use the module option "Bottleneck Slides" and the advanced option "Solo Predefined Instrument".

You will find in http://www.tabledit.com/download/psg01.zip some demo files demonstrating the capacities of the program regarding PSG.

Now my wish is to go farther...

Matthieu Leschemelle

Don Benoit · Post by **Don Benoit** » 4 Aug 2001 9:34 am

I prefer to have the tab on the lines.

Roy Thomson · Post by **Roy Thomson** » 4 Aug 2001 10:26 am

I prefer the strings to be numbered on the left hand side.
Instead of Lettering the pedals and knee levers many prefer :

+ ......indicating Single raise
++ ..... for Double raise
- ..... for single lower
-- .... for double lower

The above symbols are placed on the right hand side of the fret numbers instead of the letters.

Roy T.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 4 Aug 2001 8:21 pm

Just to show how many different ways there are... I prefer using sharps and flats after the fret number to indicate pedal raises and lowers. I don't write much tab, though...

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Roy Thomson · Post by **Roy Thomson** » 5 Aug 2001 8:52 am

Bobby's stated preference of using "sharps" and "flats" is the best solution IMO.
I just have not been doing it...
I am going to start instituting that approach.
I use tabulature all the time. Saves me hours...
Roy T.

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 5 Aug 2001 12:34 pm

I downloaded the demo program. A friend wanted to look at it. We both decided it was not for us. However, there is no uninstall routine to do an orderly uninstall (I personally consider this a negative). I had to use the Windows ME restore feature to restore my PC to the state it was before the demo program and font was installed.

Rich Sullivan · Post by **Rich Sullivan** » 5 Aug 2001 12:55 pm

I have been using this software to write some tabs of non-pedal arrangements (which is obviously easier than for pedals). I would like to post some of these in the tablature area of the forum, without re-writing them in the method the forum uses. Is this possible?

Matthieu Leschemelle · Post by **Matthieu Leschemelle** » 8 Aug 2001 6:12 am

To Jack Stoner:

IMHO, there is no uninstall feature required since TablEdit doesn't change anything to the system files.

You have just to delete the "c:\program files\tabledit32\" folder and the "c:\windows\fonts\tef250.ttf" true type font. You will be all set.

I do admit this is not explained in the v2.50 help file. It's a lack that is fixed in v2.60 help file.

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 8 Aug 2001 1:33 pm

I didn't find the font file you referenced???

Thanks for the info on removing the program. I wasn't sure if it added any .dll's, etc to the Windows folder or any registry entries.