8 ohm JBL in Nash112

Bruce Bouton · Post by **Bruce Bouton** » 14 Oct 2005 3:40 pm

I've got an 8 ohm JBL that I was thinking of putting in the Nash 112. Will it work. I forget the speaker rules for solid state.
Thanks
BB

David Nugent · Post by **David Nugent** » 14 Oct 2005 3:52 pm

Bruce,
It will work, but may cut your power output a bit.

Roger Kelly · Post by **Roger Kelly** » 14 Oct 2005 3:57 pm

It will cut your power down from 85 watts to about 50 watts but....due to the efficiency of the JBL you MAY be just as loud and not be able to tell any difference?

Steve Spitz · Post by **Steve Spitz** » 14 Oct 2005 4:33 pm

Bruce: is it an E series ? I have one and was curious as well. Let us know.

Stephen Gambrell · Post by **Stephen Gambrell** » 15 Oct 2005 4:01 am

It'll work, and if you don't like the way it sounds, send me the JBL, I want to try one in my DeLuxe Reverb...

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 15 Oct 2005 5:25 am

If it works, I've still got two JBL D120-F's for sale, for others that want to do it.

Duane Dunard · Post by **Duane Dunard** » 15 Oct 2005 8:09 am

Bill Taft installed that speaker in his N-112 about a month ago and may choose to comment here. As I recall, he found the power loss as minimal, and it did not effect his performance on the small, local opry shows. It was an improvment in tone but probably not a huge improvment.

Steve Dodson · Post by **Steve Dodson** » 15 Oct 2005 8:39 am

I know the weight issue will apply here, But I don't understand why they just didn't go ahead and put a good old B/W speaker in this amp with about a 100 watts,and no one would be trying to put other speakers in this amp. I know a few people who have gone ahead when they got the amp and put a B/W in it and they are very pleased. My two cents is not even worth two cents anyway,But I still think 100 Watts + B/W speaker's =

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Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 15 Oct 2005 10:00 am

There's going to be many variations tried on this amp.

As far as increasing power, adding a BW, etc. Remember, this was originally designed to be a "small" lightweight practice amp. It wasn't designed to be a gig amp, although many - including myself - are using them this way. Considering it's original design purpose the amp, as it comes from the factory is perfect for that design. If I need more power I can use my Nashville 1000.

Since it is so popular maybe Peavey will offer a BW option, like they've done with the different colors.

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 19 Oct 2005 7:59 am

The Nashville 112 is rated at 80 watts. The speaker Peavey chose to use is more than ample. Remember, the idea was to keep it light. I would leave it stock. It sounds great. IMHO.

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Mike Brown · Post by **Mike Brown** » 19 Oct 2005 9:55 am

The idea was for a lightweight rehearsal amp, but steelers liked it so well that they are using it in live situations. We love that!

There are pros and cons to adding the additional power. But, many who have replaced the stock Blue Marvel speaker with a BW have commented that there was not a great deal of difference in sound. Plus, adding a BW would increase the price of the amp, which we did not want to do.

Many steelers are using one at home, then adding a second Nashville 112 for a live gig.

Mike Brown
Peavey Electronics Corporation

Alan Harrison · Post by **Alan Harrison** » 20 Oct 2005 5:08 pm

I replaced the stock speakers in my two Nashville 112's with 1203-4 BW's shortly after I got them. I couldn't be happier. They've got a lot of bite when I need it.I'm not sure how much more weight it added but to me it was worth it. And yes,I can tell the difference in the sound.

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Doyle Mitchell · Post by **Doyle Mitchell** » 21 Oct 2005 5:01 pm

WoW!! I guess my ears have gone south! Or theres a lot of difference in 112's from the factory, I played Duane's two 112's with the BW's and immediately had him order me two BW's. There is absolutly no comparison in sound of his with BW's and mine with stock speakers and some are saying it made little difference in sound on their amps.The BW's had more of the 400 sound and feel. I can still lift a few more pounds for that sound and still have the sound I want.Before my back went I would never have even considered anything but a 15" speaker but time changes everything. Thanks Peavey for this great little amp!! I know its not the answer for the younger players with good backs, but.... someday they will love it too.

Donald Jeunette · Post by **Donald Jeunette** » 21 Oct 2005 7:04 pm

Question for Mike Brown. Can 2/ 112 amps be chained togeather to work with one black box?[This message was edited by Donald Jeunette on 21 October 2005 at 08:06 PM.]

Steve Dodson · Post by **Steve Dodson** » 21 Oct 2005 8:06 pm

Doyle,
Those are my exact thoughts. As great a speaker as the B/W is, there can't help but be a big difference. I had a 112 and I liked it, but even to me in a small get together jam session,it didn't cut through like I wanted it too. But I felt like the B/W would have made the difference. Wish I had kept it and added the B/W. As for the difference in weight and price, I feel that difference would have been made up for by the performance of the B/W. Just my 2 cents.

Doyle Mitchell · Post by **Doyle Mitchell** » 22 Oct 2005 6:46 am

Steve, myself and at least 3/4 of the steel players in the world are all the same, we have been searching for "THE" sound for many years. Many times I thought I had found it, for a month or two, then another sound would appeal and yes sir thats the sound I want. I have quit looking for "THE" sound and started looking for something I like in an amp that I can still lift and still sit through a 4 hr. gig with out being in pain. The 112 proved to be that amp for me..... but not in one amp ...two. I still have to carry two amps but at least they weigh only about half of the big ones so I can make two trips to the trailer. The 112 is a 80 watt amp, and anyone thinking it will perform like a 210 watt 400 with a 15" speaker will be disappointed, common sense will tell you that. But two of these babies hooked togather will surprise you. With BW's they still have the sound close to what I am used to and will play a quite large gig unmiked if you prefer not to mike. They are certainly not the answer for everyone, I have friends that tried them and went back to the 15" speaker immediately. So, those of us who can live with it ,it is the answer, for those who need the extra power and penetration it is not the answer. But, I will say that I cant imagine playing with a band that plays louder than the 112 will play, my ears would explode and I love loud dance music. We play a pretty large V.and one amp wont quite cut through the crowd to the rear of the building but two hooked togather can split the far back wall.Yep, it will work for me, Thanks again Peavey for a great little amp!!

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 22 Oct 2005 7:49 am

Hi Doyle! With two 112's chained together, you still have a total of 80 watts of sound pressure. You just have an extension amp to distribute the sound more. Am I right? Two 80 watt amps do not egual 160 watts of power.

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 22 Oct 2005 9:16 am

Two 80 watt amps is two 80 watt amps. Twice as much energy is transmitted to the air.

I played through a pair of Nashville 112's and it wasn't nearly as loud and powerful as my Boogie 50/50 into a pair of EVMs. No contest. Wattage doesn't translate directly to volume.

A pair of Nashville 112's does sound pretty sweet, though.

Back to the original question: I'm not sure that the voicing of the amp would sound good through the JBL's bright aluminum cone. That would be my biggest concern. I'm sure that Peavey put a lot of thought into the speaker design to get "that sound".

Don't ever forget that the amp is a part of your musical instument. It's where the music reaches the air. Like the top of an acoustic guitar, the speaker must provide the kind of resonance that you prefer. Your ears are the ultimate test of whether a speaker "works" or not.

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Doyle Mitchell · Post by **Doyle Mitchell** » 22 Oct 2005 12:51 pm

Your absolutely right Bob, its your own ears that we try to satisfy, I dont think I have ever owned an amp trying to please someone elses ears, I have had friends tell me an amp I was using did not sound as good as one i had used previously, but my ears liked the one i was using so I stayed with it.For 30 years every steel picker I know including myself has been on a endless search for "THE" sound, we are all still looking!! I have seen some on the forum say they found exactly what they were looking for, but I almost nearly guarantee you that if they hear something they think sounds better than what they have ...... the search is on again! We are steel men, thats the curse of the steel, always searching for "THE" sound and always searching for a new lick,and I have loved every minute of it. I think it is what seperates us from the crowd. Yes, you are right about the 80 watts, at least I think, but the two amps spread the sound and seem to take on a different tone. I know they will cover the building a lot better, probably because they cover more area. Bill Taft changed his speaker to an 8 ohm JBL and loves the sound, he claims he can not tell the difference in power loss. I am an old die hard BW fan and have been since the first one I used in the 70's, Every amp I have had the first thing I did was stick in a BW, would make you wonder why I didnt just grab a 400 Peavey and be happy?? Well, it is the curse thing, just got to try everything out there and then try to revise it in search of "THE" sound. What a boring world it would be if all steels sounded exactly the same and everyone played the same exact licks.