Any closet Toto fans??

John Macy · Post by **John Macy** » 28 Mar 2006 9:02 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr3TynkVYh4&search=toto

Marlin Smoot · Post by **Marlin Smoot** » 28 Mar 2006 9:18 am

David Hungate(sp?) on Bass Guitar who ended up in Nashville playing on a bunch of country hit records.

Rick McDuffie · Post by **Rick McDuffie** » 28 Mar 2006 9:24 am

Yep, I loved Toto. They were all monsters. I think that, if you were ever in a band like that, you would just have to retire afterwards- nothing else would ever measure up!

My girls still think "Africa" is about the best song ever.[This message was edited by Rick McDuffie on 28 March 2006 at 09:32 AM.]

Billy Wilson · Post by **Billy Wilson** » 28 Mar 2006 10:54 am

Let's hope they stay in retirment

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 28 Mar 2006 11:02 am

I was playing a solo gig one night last year (with about 10 people in the crowd), when Steve Lukather (Toto guitarist) strolled in and parked himself right in front to me for the whole set. When I was finished, we talked for a while and it turned out he had married a girl from my town and was visiting for a week. We ended up hanging out a few times and he told me some jaw-dropping stories about jamming in Jeff Lynne's living room with Dylan, singing She Loves You with Paul McCartney, meditating with George Harrison, etc. We still stay in touch on email....very humble, down to earth guy who happens to be a tremendous guitar player.

Not all of Toto's stuff is my bag, but the talent cannot be denied.

Jim Peters · Post by **Jim Peters** » 28 Mar 2006 2:26 pm

Great players, average team. JP

Keith Murrow · Post by **Keith Murrow** » 28 Mar 2006 2:30 pm

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Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 28 Mar 2006 4:11 pm

Billy, YOU can hope they stay in retirement, but I'd rather hear them any day than the crap we're getting shoved at us now ......

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 28 Mar 2006 4:33 pm

I love Toto!!!!

RR

erik · Post by **erik** » 28 Mar 2006 4:38 pm

No closet here... then nobody ever asked me if I liked them. I still love Africa. Heard it a few weeks ago. Did they also do the Rosanna song? Like that too.

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Michael Haselman · Post by **Michael Haselman** » 28 Mar 2006 5:01 pm

Great players, but they were in that "corporate rock" genre that I wasn't real fond of back then. Not a big Journey fan either, though they also were great players.

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Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 28 Mar 2006 5:19 pm

I was always slightly annoyed that Toto were a cool band to hate. Thank Rolling Stone magazine's loser critics for that. There are several bands from the 70's and 80's that music critics made cool to hate: Toto, Journey, Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, Styx, Foreigner, Bee Gees....and on and on.

Every time someone says they don't like one of these bands, a red flag goes up for me. I always think, "review reader....letting critics rule their taste."

When I was talking with Lukather, he addressed this topic. He said that a critic once stated that Lukather's parents should have been sterilized. These guys are well aware of this stuff. They're just too busy selling out arenas in Europe to care. When we were sitting at the bar, the bartender overheard us talking about Toto, and he said, "Toto! They suck, man!" And Lukather laughed and said he played with them. The bartender replied, "Wow, too bad!" Lukather shrugged it off and later left him a sizable tip anyway. That's just the type of guy he seems to be....very humble but a little mystified at the bad press thing, which has infiltrated the minds of so many people who can't think for themselves.

ajm · Post by **ajm** » 28 Mar 2006 6:42 pm

Didn't they sweep the Grammys back in 1984 or so?

We should all suck that bad.

As for the comment from the bartender, ever notice that the most critical and vocal people out there on a subject seem to be the ones who are the least capable at actually doing what they're talking about?

Case in point: Go to any sports bar. Listen to all of the guys watching a basketball game talk about how bad some player was, and that he couldn't shoot for crap. Then walk in the men's room. Look at all of the paper towels on the floor. These same guys can't even hit the wastebasket.

I used to be pretty vocal about my musical tastes when I was younger. These days I'm a little less critical when I don't like something and a little more open, too.

I also agree with the comment about selling out arenas in Europe. Add every other country in the world to that, too. The world is a lot bigger place than America, my friends.

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Artie McEwan

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 28 Mar 2006 7:20 pm

Yes, Artie, good point. Many bands that no longer tour the USA still continue to sell out around the world. Toto are far from retired. They're busy as a band and with solo projects, and they've done a lot of touring overseas in the past few years. They also play in America from time to time, although I think they're most celebrated in Europe and Japan.

Check out Steve Lukather.com.......very interesting articles and information on a guy who has seen it all and more.

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 28 Mar 2006 11:32 pm

And it was a crying shame and a great loss,
when drummer Jeff Porcaro died from a accidental spraying by bugger killer he seemed to be VERY alergic too.

Super player, very tastefull and yet huge chops.
His brother Steve is/ was the keyboard player for Toto.

I won't say they were my favorite band back then, but some of their songs are on my list of favorites from that time.

Another band Iliked was Mr. Mr.,
same critical crap but I listen to them occasionally still.

Styx had some great arrangments on some albums.
I always loved Journeys lead singer,
one of the best tenor voices ever in rock.

There is an old saying :
Those can, do,
those that can't, teach.

But I saw a great paraphrase.

This that can play, do,
Those that can't... review for Rolling Stone!

Dave Burr · Post by **Dave Burr** » 29 Mar 2006 5:47 am

TOTO IV is one of my favorites and brings back fond memories of high school. I had it on vinyl then cassette and now on CD. Still makes me smile when I listen to it. Thanks for the topic... It's been a couple of years since I listened to it last... think I'll dig it out.

Respectfully,
Dave Burr

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 29 Mar 2006 7:58 am

I feel the same way about Steely Dan, too. I have all their albums, and every track is like a music lesson to me.

When I first read a negative review of Toto, it confirmed what I'd long suspected - music critics are often the least-qualified to judge....

RR

Mark van Allen · Post by **Mark van Allen** » 30 Mar 2006 10:50 am

Many engineers have a "mix Cd" they use, with songs they know and appreciate various recorded elements of, to play on the monitor systems in new studios they work at to "tune" their ears to the characteristics of the new room. "Rosanna" is the first track on mine. I love the mix and quality of the recording. I really don't care what critics of any stripe think, I like Toto.

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Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 30 Mar 2006 11:21 am

"Ninety-Nine" came out when I was living in Tustin, Ca. Everytime I hear it my mind goes back to Huntington and Newport Beach, and the scenery...

John Macy · Post by **John Macy** » 30 Mar 2006 1:59 pm

Hey Mark,

That's on my ref disk, too

. What else you got on there???[This message was edited by John Macy on 30 March 2006 at 01:59 PM.]

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 31 Mar 2006 10:44 pm

Toto retired? Ha-ha-ha.........
http://www.stevelukather.net/ConcertGuide.aspx

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 31 Mar 2006 11:14 pm

On my reference disk is typically :

Gloria Estefan's
Mi Tiarra
and the next cut with those great nylon guitars.

Mister Mister
Welcome To The Real World
and / or Kiria

Jerry Garcia and David Grissman's
last bluegrass effort

A section of Caramin Burana

Loggins Messina
House At Pooh Corner, and Angry Eyes or Vahavela

Steely Dan Aja
and Don Fagin Walk Trough The Raindrops

Joe Jackson Another World from Night And Day

Lastly Mark O'Connor, Yo Yo Ma and Edgar Mayer
The Steven Foster cut with James Tayler

If they all sound cool to me, I like the room
Rossana would also be a good addition.
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Richard Sevigny · Post by **Richard Sevigny** » 1 Apr 2006 8:25 am

We should all suck that bad.

Well said, Artie

I learned pretty early on that just because I didn't like it, that didn't mean it was crap.

There's only three type of music I've haven't learned to appreciate:

Opera

Big Band Swing

Rap

Verdi and Glenn Miller have awesome chops. Rap has a certain attitude I can't get my head around. Gotta good beat, I guess.

I was never a huge fan of Toto, though I could appreciate their musicianship. Africa is a killer song.

Alan Rudd · Post by **Alan Rudd** » 1 Apr 2006 7:16 pm

I saw Steve Lukather playing for Boz Skaggs in Norman, OK when he was 17, so naturally, when Toto came out, I was as fan.

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 1 Apr 2006 8:48 pm

It would appear that they sucked so bad that Miles Davis covered their tunes. From Steve L.'s website:

Recently IMC Music released a 3 cd pack with the complete Munich Concert of Miles Davis & band from July 1988. On the setlist two Toto songs: Human nature (Steve Porcaro) and Don't stop me now (David Paich & Steve Lukather). Check out the info and soundclip at the sessions section. Also take a look at the updated covers section.