Reba's Lip Syncin'

Michael Garnett · Post by **Michael Garnett** » 7 Dec 2005 12:44 pm

Actually, I'm sorry I brought it up. I didn't intend for this to become some professional pi$$ing contest. If you watched the show, you'd have heard the volume and tone of her voice remain exactly the same as her mouth travelled over 6 inches away from a dynamic microphone. More than once her mouth passed from right to left in front of the microphone and there was no volume change at all. She obviously wasn't belting anything out, so unless there was a monster compressor on her mic, I don't see how there wouldn't have been some volume drop.

I like your quote, Curt. I'd appreciate it if you'd respect my opinions as well. I care about this stuff, it's what I want to do for a living. That's why I said something in the first place. But please don't make some veiled disparaging remark about my not knowing anything about recording. I might not have a hundred recording sessions under my belt, might not have a gold record hanging on the wall, but we've all got to start somewhere.

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 7 Dec 2005 1:28 pm

BTW Bruce, isn't it amazing how some people who are not actually recording, seem to have all the answers? Some of them are still trying to ride on their faded, or worn out reputation!.....Keep up the good work Bruce, you are an inspiration.

Michael, this was not intended for you. It was in response to another person's smart remark.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 7 Dec 2005 1:34 pm

I just wish I had a faded, or worn out reputation to ride on!

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 7 Dec 2005 2:25 pm

Gee, Michael, you just got started and you already have a worn out reputation. You must be doing something right.
Reba does move her mouth funny on TV. Unfortunately, it doesn't make the show funny.

Keep that place on your wall for your first gold; you'll get one.

Charles French · Post by **Charles French** » 7 Dec 2005 5:13 pm

Hey, I was on that show too, I cued up the tape machine because neither of them gals can sing, especially country!

Edit, jes cause you from the country don't mean you can sing country.[This message was edited by Charles French on 07 December 2005 at 05:14 PM.]

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 7 Dec 2005 8:13 pm

Howard hit apon a possible answer, and I've seen it done thataway. some singers don't feel right without having a mike to sing into, with technology they can now use a stage mike as a prop.

Also Reba is a singer's singer, and if she wanted to do what was reported, I'd bet she could. She's been singing "big time" for thirty years, and not just in sterile studio settings.

As far as who does "it", and when?

If people "in the show" say things about they shouldn't, they'll lose their jobs, and they wouldn't want to do that, now would they?

Duh..

I remember asking about the steel part in BM's "Hot Wired" and had to figure out myself that it was tuned faster in the studio, from A to Bb, and probably then some...

I was indeed, born at night....

EJL[This message was edited by Eric West on 07 December 2005 at 08:16 PM.]

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 8 Dec 2005 2:27 am

I've worked with singers who need much more than 6 inches back to not distort a small system.

Odeta for one, she had to pull PAST 1 foot not to thrash the sound system at the Museum of Fine Art in NYC.
And she did it VERY smooth too.
6 inches is not that much for a singer with a big voice.

Someone with such a huge dynamic range is Justin Trevino.

Michael Johnstone · Post by **Michael Johnstone** » 8 Dec 2005 9:24 am

I did a taped and later televised concert with Jim Lauterdale and Buddy Miller a number of years ago here in L.A. which was switched live to tape. That means guy in a remote truck who may or may not know a steel from shinola was making real-time split second decisions as to which of 4 cameras was going on a single video tape recorder. When it aired I realized they had covered my steel with an overhead crane camera and cut away to another camera right as I started the solo on "King of Broken Hearts". They eventually got a camera back on me before the end of the solo,but in the time between the concert and when it was shown,they lifted a piece of footage of me playing from another song and edited it in to the missed shot. When the closeup was shown,my hands activity had nothing to do with the solo being played and I was wrongly accused of tomfoolery by a few other players who saw it. When I tried to explain it,they all said "yeah right" and figured I'd blown the solo and had to fix the audio after the fact or that somehow I myself had monkeyed with the tape for some insideous reason. These criticisms most always come from guys who've never played on TV and have no idea of the technical aspects of it - and how much of it is out of our control. BTW,I've lip-synched and/or sidelined(which is what you call instrumental synching)on TV and in films lotsa times for all kinds of reasons. It's just something working musicians do sometimes. Get over it.
-MJ-

Peter Siegel · Post by **Peter Siegel** » 8 Dec 2005 10:04 am

"So who are you going to believe, me or your own two eyes?"

-Groucho Marx

Terry Edwards · Post by **Terry Edwards** » 8 Dec 2005 10:22 am

It's all a country music conspiracy thing.

Paul Franklin is playing on everything. They film other players behind a "blue screen" and digitally superimpose the image so we think there are other steel guitarists that get to play on TV. If you look real close you can probably see the digital artifacts around Bruce Bouton!!

I tell ya, it's a conspiracy!!

Terry

Charles French · Post by **Charles French** » 8 Dec 2005 10:39 am

Also Reba is a singer's singer

Whose?

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 9 Dec 2005 7:54 pm

I just visited Reba's web site. She's got 30 albums out now, going back to 1977.

Not bad.

Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 9 Dec 2005 9:20 pm

Some body give Smiley a smack on the back of the head!!!

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 10 Dec 2005 7:38 am

What Michael J,. said.