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Eric West
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Matter of Fact,( and I thank you for letting me get back on the right track), I did.
I cannot, as most of us, relay any more than what I've read. One source where I got the info is at http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/5410883.htm
We all know, survivors, and victors write history.
There is little history of them except that of militia groups in general in the "pre nullification" period. They weren't real happy with the "taxation policies" of pres Jackson.
Things, as we know, went downhill from there..
It's my experience here in Oregon that there are still many "militias". I know people in them, as I do in "bike clubs", but I've never really been a "joiner. I have a small "authority problem".
I'm not sure that naming a band after one, especially in it's territory would be a good idea. You might find out that one of their ancestors killed one of yours, or vice versa.
It's kind of a "swishy sounding" name anyhow.
I have taken a lot of flack for naming my Australian Shepard the way I did. I call him "Bill" for short. You don't want to know.
I never really married him.
I would have come out better sometimes, methinks, had I.
Hmm..
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'78 Pro III Sho-Bud
'75 MSA Red Baron
'63FLH 90cid Panhead Stroker
"At my age, sometimes I run out of Adrenaline, but I've still got plenty of Gall.." -Me-
Some play music out of Love.
Some out of poverty.
I play it mostly out of Spite.
-Eric West-
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Eric West on 20 March 2003 at 10:45 PM.]</p></FONT>
I cannot, as most of us, relay any more than what I've read. One source where I got the info is at http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/5410883.htm
We all know, survivors, and victors write history.
There is little history of them except that of militia groups in general in the "pre nullification" period. They weren't real happy with the "taxation policies" of pres Jackson.
Things, as we know, went downhill from there..
It's my experience here in Oregon that there are still many "militias". I know people in them, as I do in "bike clubs", but I've never really been a "joiner. I have a small "authority problem".
I'm not sure that naming a band after one, especially in it's territory would be a good idea. You might find out that one of their ancestors killed one of yours, or vice versa.
It's kind of a "swishy sounding" name anyhow.
I have taken a lot of flack for naming my Australian Shepard the way I did. I call him "Bill" for short. You don't want to know.
I never really married him.
I would have come out better sometimes, methinks, had I.
Hmm..
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'78 Pro III Sho-Bud
'75 MSA Red Baron
'63FLH 90cid Panhead Stroker
"At my age, sometimes I run out of Adrenaline, but I've still got plenty of Gall.." -Me-
Some play music out of Love.
Some out of poverty.
I play it mostly out of Spite.
-Eric West-
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Eric West on 20 March 2003 at 10:45 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Eric West
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Jody Carver
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Gene
I was born and raised in Brooklyn New York.
My ambition was to play proffesional baseball
but when I heard the sound of a steel guitar
that dream was never pursued.
I have been living here in PA since 1995 & I
plan to move back into NY state. I lived in Northern Westchester county most of my life.
Thank you for asking.
I was born and raised in Brooklyn New York.
My ambition was to play proffesional baseball
but when I heard the sound of a steel guitar
that dream was never pursued.
I have been living here in PA since 1995 & I
plan to move back into NY state. I lived in Northern Westchester county most of my life.
Thank you for asking.
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David Doggett
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Just a word on Pennsylvania, since it came up. There's a lot of steel guitar history here, including Winnie Winston and Bobbe Seymour (who knew?). To some extent Sacred Steel got its start here. I met an old time steel player named George McMenamin and every room of his house is filled with quads, triples, pedal steels and Dobros. Several Forum members are in PA, including that guy Jim Cohen whose CD pops up every time you submit a post. Of course he's originally from the Mid-West I think. And myself, I'm from North Mississippi and Tennessee.
As for New Yawk, as they said above, it's a big city so has lots of musicians. The real question is what special kinds of music originated in New York. I'd say Mississippi tops the list for that. If you think of Jimmy Rogers, Robert Johnson and Elvis, you have country, blues and rock'n'roll. New York has modern classical (Gershwin and Bernstein), Broadway musicals, and...ah... modern jazz - no wait, most of those guys came from Kansas City, Philly, etc....and...ah...well, you see what I mean?
No offense intended, I love New York, it'd be a great place except for all the New Yorkers - just like France. Okay, okay, I'm only kiddin', I think.
As for New Yawk, as they said above, it's a big city so has lots of musicians. The real question is what special kinds of music originated in New York. I'd say Mississippi tops the list for that. If you think of Jimmy Rogers, Robert Johnson and Elvis, you have country, blues and rock'n'roll. New York has modern classical (Gershwin and Bernstein), Broadway musicals, and...ah... modern jazz - no wait, most of those guys came from Kansas City, Philly, etc....and...ah...well, you see what I mean?
No offense intended, I love New York, it'd be a great place except for all the New Yorkers - just like France. Okay, okay, I'm only kiddin', I think.

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Eric, sorry about Abbeville's website. See, there has been very little "Reconstruction" going on around here. OH, a few trailers(including mine) added back porches a few years back, but nothing the Daughters of the Confederacy would have taken a second look at. There's some good John C. Calhoun Rumors around(another good band name, huh?), but that's for private, or later posts. But ol' John was at least as fertile as Tommy Jefferson, just without the P.R.
Pleasure talking to you, as always. Give my love to Bill.
Pleasure talking to you, as always. Give my love to Bill.
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Jim Cohen
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Thanks for the mention, David. Actually, I'm originally from... New Yawk! Born in Manhattan, where I lived the first 3 years, then raised on Long Island. But I did go to college in the midwest, St. Louis, where I met Scotty and started taking steel lessons and the rest is histrionic...<SMALL>Several Forum members are in PA, including that guy Jim Cohen whose CD pops up every time you submit a post. Of course he's originally from the Mid-West I think. </SMALL>
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Jody Carver
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Jereny
I lived in Somers for over 35 years and I miss it. My daughters still live there. I visit at least once a week. Our doctors are in Katonah and Mount Kisco, so we use Northern Westchester Hospital in Mt Kisco.
Do you know Bob Galassi of Ossining Music?. Im likin to go back again soon.
Gene,Thank you for the prompt. thats all I need and I cant stop..hope all is well,I'm with Casey as I write this and she said to say HI and to tell you she is practicing what to write you on e mail. Thanks Cowboy.
You too Jeremy..Im in Bedford Hills all the time.
I lived in Somers for over 35 years and I miss it. My daughters still live there. I visit at least once a week. Our doctors are in Katonah and Mount Kisco, so we use Northern Westchester Hospital in Mt Kisco.
Do you know Bob Galassi of Ossining Music?. Im likin to go back again soon.
Gene,Thank you for the prompt. thats all I need and I cant stop..hope all is well,I'm with Casey as I write this and she said to say HI and to tell you she is practicing what to write you on e mail. Thanks Cowboy.
You too Jeremy..Im in Bedford Hills all the time.
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Jody Carver
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No offense intended, I love New York, it'd be a great place except for all the New Yorkers - just like France. Okay, okay, I'm only kiddin', I think.
Now why would someone post something like this? maybe it's funny to you.But where were
you on September 11 2001? when the FDNY and NYPD gave their all and some their lives to
rescue innocent people from the WTC.
I'm suprised to see anyone take this stance and Im suprised that someone with your intelligence would make a statement like this.
If it were me and I felt that way,I would have kept it to myself or re-read what I posted and edited it out.
I was afraid to post on this,because first off the topic is ridiculous. Is this the way to get people's attention? I should hope not.
Look at Bob Hoffnar's reply,it is obvious that Bob was not happy to say the least on what was said about his home town New York.
I have heard Bob play and he is a fine musician,rather than judge a person as to where he comes from, why dont you post something on the credits that you have accompolished during your lifetime rather than take issue with "where do you come from"
I thought the only thing that was cracked in Philadelphia was the Liberty Bell, I guess I was wrong
and as far as Bob's reply,It may
be in your best interest to try what he suggested it may give you a different perspective of yourself..and who knows you may like it, and one more time.
Where were you on September 11th 2001???????
C,mon and post your credentials as a musician
Im suprised at the person who started this nonsence thread, you too should be ashamed
of yourself.
Turn on the radio or and TV,the war is in Iraq not here on this forum.
Now why would someone post something like this? maybe it's funny to you.But where were
you on September 11 2001? when the FDNY and NYPD gave their all and some their lives to
rescue innocent people from the WTC.
I'm suprised to see anyone take this stance and Im suprised that someone with your intelligence would make a statement like this.
If it were me and I felt that way,I would have kept it to myself or re-read what I posted and edited it out.
I was afraid to post on this,because first off the topic is ridiculous. Is this the way to get people's attention? I should hope not.
Look at Bob Hoffnar's reply,it is obvious that Bob was not happy to say the least on what was said about his home town New York.
I have heard Bob play and he is a fine musician,rather than judge a person as to where he comes from, why dont you post something on the credits that you have accompolished during your lifetime rather than take issue with "where do you come from"
I thought the only thing that was cracked in Philadelphia was the Liberty Bell, I guess I was wrong
and as far as Bob's reply,It maybe in your best interest to try what he suggested it may give you a different perspective of yourself..and who knows you may like it, and one more time.
Where were you on September 11th 2001???????
C,mon and post your credentials as a musician
Im suprised at the person who started this nonsence thread, you too should be ashamed
of yourself.
Turn on the radio or and TV,the war is in Iraq not here on this forum.
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Jody Carver
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Sorry duplicate post.
SEPTEMBER 11 2001 NEW YAWWK CITY
If You Can Make It There,You Can Make It Anywhere.New York New York.
Frank Sinatra made it here at the NY Paramount, where were you??
This is a "waste of my time" and your's as well...wake up Its not too late my friends.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 21 March 2003 at 05:38 PM.]</p></FONT>
SEPTEMBER 11 2001 NEW YAWWK CITY
If You Can Make It There,You Can Make It Anywhere.New York New York.
Frank Sinatra made it here at the NY Paramount, where were you??
This is a "waste of my time" and your's as well...wake up Its not too late my friends.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 21 March 2003 at 05:38 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Richard Bass
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Tom Olson
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To those of you who read this thread for what it was -- a reasonable topic of discussion -- I thank you for your posts. With regard to the other posts, I've deleted the original post and others because some of the replies were so utterly rediculous as to make the original topic totally moot.
Jody, if you think the topic was rediculous, then why would you even post anything in the first place? Maybe you should have taken your own advice and deleted what you posted and moved on.
Better yet, perhaps you should take both a reading comprehension class and an anger management class. I think it would have been perfectly clear to any reasonable person that my original post was intended as a compliment to New York City and the people of that great town. All I said was that it seems like many good musicians come from NYC.
I think it's also clear that David's joke was just that -- a joke. What IS rediculous is that a supposed elder such as yourself can set such an example as to be so unreasonably reactionary.
Janice -- if you would be so kind as to close this thread before it becomes any more disgusting, I would be much obliged to you.
To anyone thinking of posting any further -- please don't waste your time. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Tom Olson on 21 March 2003 at 08:43 PM.]</p></FONT>
Jody, if you think the topic was rediculous, then why would you even post anything in the first place? Maybe you should have taken your own advice and deleted what you posted and moved on.
Better yet, perhaps you should take both a reading comprehension class and an anger management class. I think it would have been perfectly clear to any reasonable person that my original post was intended as a compliment to New York City and the people of that great town. All I said was that it seems like many good musicians come from NYC.
I think it's also clear that David's joke was just that -- a joke. What IS rediculous is that a supposed elder such as yourself can set such an example as to be so unreasonably reactionary.
Janice -- if you would be so kind as to close this thread before it becomes any more disgusting, I would be much obliged to you.
To anyone thinking of posting any further -- please don't waste your time. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Tom Olson on 21 March 2003 at 08:43 PM.]</p></FONT>
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My apology for stealing your line: "Get a Rope"!
