Derby volume pedal

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Marc Muller
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Derby volume pedal

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Question: I have 3 and all when fully depressed still have a lot more volume to go. They stop at the floor only halfway in the volume sweep. The metal foot stops it. No matter where I set the little screws for height. Is this normal? Built like that for a reason? Yeah sure, I can just turn the amp up but sure would like fully depressed volume if possible. I generally use the Hilton at home but hate having to plug in at a gig and bring the Derby. Thanks!
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Been a long time since Charlie showed me how to adjust the pot volume by slipping the string without any disassembly. I've forgotten how it's done, but it's probably the same as the Emmons or other pedals built on that same model. Probably other players here know what I'm referencing to instruct you.
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Marc Muller wrote: 8 Oct 2025 5:46 am Question: I have 3 and all when fully depressed still have a lot more volume to go. They stop at the floor only halfway in the volume sweep. The metal foot stops it. No matter where I set the little screws for height. Is this normal? Built like that for a reason? Yeah sure, I can just turn the amp up but sure would like fully depressed volume if possible. I generally use the Hilton at home but hate having to plug in at a gig and bring the Derby. Thanks!
Like Jerry says, it's presumably like a Goodrich or other passive pedal where you loosen the little clamp thingy on the pot shaft and rotate it a bit and retighten - but are you certain that there's that much of the taper left on the pot? Passive volume pedals even turned fully up will always be quieter than plugging in direct, or with an active pedal like the Hilton (which can even cleanly boost the signal)
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Marc Muller
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Re: Derby volume pedal

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Thanks all. Weird all 3 stop at half taper because of the metat foot. I could try adjusting the string, as long as it's a smooth taper from off to full with only half the rotation. Yes, the Hilton is much louder with no signal or tone loss and is used home in the studio. Mine is older with the boat anchor plug.
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I think you are having the same problem I have had with Emmons from time to time. In my situation, the pedal bar was just too low, too close to the floor so the "foot" protrusion in the volume pedal hits the floor before you are at full volume with the pot. Easy solution, make your legs 1/2 inch longer and mount your pedal bar a little bit higher above the floor. That will allow your volume pedal to operate in its full sweep. I put a shaft collar on my legs just above the rubber foot to prevent the bar from creeping down. See attached pic. It will also make your pedal heights change and you will need to re-adjust them. If you count the turns to adjust one, (I use B pedal to start), it will be the exact same number of turns on each pedal to get them back where they started. Hope my explanation was not too confusing.

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Re: Derby volume pedal

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Charlie Powell wrote: 11 Oct 2025 6:49 am I think you are having the same problem I have had with Emmons from time to time. In my situation, the pedal bar was just too low, too close to the floor so the "foot" protrusion in the volume pedal hits the floor before you are at full volume with the pot. Easy solution, make your legs 1/2 inch longer and mount your pedal bar a little bit higher above the floor. That will allow your volume pedal to operate in its full sweep. I put a shaft collar on my legs just above the rubber foot to prevent the bar from creeping down. See attached pic. It will also make your pedal heights change and you will need to re-adjust them. If you count the turns to adjust one, (I use B pedal to start), it will be the exact same number of turns on each pedal to get them back where they started. Hope my explanation was not too confusing.

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Was thinking the same thing. Until I figured out I'd have to adjust pedal height too, then said fck it and used the Hilton. Too bad, I actually like the feel of the traditional volume pedals. Smoother and easier to control and not over volume pedal your playing.