Peterson tuners for PP

[Glenn Shankle]

Do any of you have insight or advice for using Peterson tuners on your PP? I want to use their sweetened tuning presets but have some questions. Like do you tune the E's with pedals down or does the preset eliminate the need for that? Do you clip it to the leg of your guitar or can you see it on the floor. My friend Mike Daly clips his to the leg but I don't see a clip for that on the Peterson web page. He uses the StoboPLUS HD. Do y'all have a favorite model?

[Tommy Mc]

I'm using a StroboPlus HD tuner and clip it to the leg using Peterson's "Pitch Holder": https://www.petersontuners.com/shop/item/Pitch-Holder It's not necessary, but you may wish to combine that with their swivel mount. The display on the StroboPLus HD is definitely large enough to see if you put the tuner on the floor, but then it's a reach to operate the controls. If you're going to stick it on the floor, you might as well use a StroboStomp pedal, which also is popular here.

As far as tuning your E's with pedals up or down, this question has come up before, with varied answers. I honestly don't know if pp's are different in this respect. It's my understanding that the pedals down thing has to do with compensating for cabinet drop, which will vary from guitar to guitar. I think there is a little cabinet drop allowance designed into the presets. My guitars are all-pull with around 3-4 cents drop. I tune with pedals up, using the OE9 sweetener and get good results. Here's the thing: you can customize any of the presets to match your instrument, design your own from the ground up, or experiment with sweeteners that others have uploaded to Peterson's library.

[Dave Grafe]

Tune the same as always, raises first using pedal sweetening, then no pedals using the no pedals setting, then lowers using the pedal setting again. Sweetening has nothing to do with "cabinet drop" it is about the string that was the tonic a moment ago still being in tune when it becoms the major third of a different chord. For further reading do a forum search on "equal temperament vs. just intonation."

[Tommy Mc]

...Sweetening has nothing to do with "cabinet drop" it is about the string that was the tonic a moment ago still being in tune when it becomes the major third of a different chord. For further reading do a forum search on "equal temperament vs. just intonation."

Dave, although sweeteners are primarily to compensate for the tonic becoming the major third of a different chord, the amount of compensation has to take cabinet drop into consideration.

For instance, the OE9 sweetener tunes the E's at 0 or "straight-up" and the B's at -1.9 cents. So the tonic and fifth are 0 and -1.9. The A note on the B pedal is -5.9 cents. When you mash A&B pedals, that A becomes the tonic and the E's become the fifth. If not for cabinet drop the E's would stay at 0 and be way sharp. That's why I think that some allowance has been made for cabinet drop when designing sweeteners. I also think that's one of the reasons that some sweeteners work better on different guitars. At least that's my 2¢, I've been wrong before.

[Glenn Shankle]

Thanks for the replies. I'm gonna look for that "Pitch Holder" thing. I've ordered the tuner and now have a new toy to explore when it gets here.