Rare Jerry Byrd Live Video - 1960s, Surprise Waltz

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Rare Jerry Byrd Live Video - 1960s, Surprise Waltz

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This outstanding video of JB playing his tune "Surprise Waltz" on live TV just popped up on Instagram. I've never seen this before.

Jerry is playing his custom-built Fender 8-string with E9 tuning. This tune is full of bar slants, interesting chord changes, and tempo changes. It's one of the songs that Jerry recorded on E9 non-pedal steel to demonstrate that pedal steel sounds Can be had on a non-pedal steel guitar. Love the history in this.

Hopefully the Instagram link will open and play for everyone.

-----> https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDbjUACxSG6

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Wow …

HowardR (aka Howard Pineapple) owns that Fender now … he brought it to HSGA’s Joliet Convention one year … everyone had fun taking their turn playing it … 🤠
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Wow! Smoooooth…..
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What are the notes in the tuning?
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Hi to lo

E B G# F# E D B G#
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What sort of Fender is that exactly? Doesn't look like a depedalled 400, nor like a Deluxe / S8 Stringmaster type. Something custom?

EDIT seek and ye shall find:
viewtopic.php?t=326212&sid=25e5eaff93d2 ... b6848ff3ee

Definitely looks like the MkII 400 was the basis for the custom design. Same pickups, short scale, same basic body structure albeit apparently without the metal frame. As it says in the other thread he didn't love the Fender sound and I'm kind of with him, my 400 isn't my favorite sounding guitar. (A lot of that is user error though.)
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Rick, I knew you'd enjoy watching that video. I remember when you posted your recording of Surprise Waltz here a few years ago. That sent me back to the woodshed trying to figure it out! There was some tab posted for it, or maybe I bought the tab from Scotty's... can't remember. I managed to play a passable version of it, and then I tried it on pedal steel. It's much easier to play on pedal steel, no slants required... but it doesn't sound as good on pedal steel. Something is lost when you take away the slants, sound-wise and in the visual. It's less interesting on the pedal steel IMO.
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E B G# F# E D B G#
🤔 I just realized that the top 7 strings of Jerry's E9 are exactly the same as pedal steel E9 tuning, strings 4 through 10.
[tab]
PSG JB E9
F#
D#
G#
E ------ E
B ------ B
G# ----- G#
F# ----- F#
E ------ E
D ------ D
B ------B
G#
[/tab]

I guess that makes sense because the "Admirable Byrd" album was basically a demonstration of pedal steel styles/sounds on a non-pedal guitar.

I have always thought that the E9 pedal steel tuning is not a very good tuning for non-pedal steel. It was designed to use with foot pedals that allow convenient chord changes 1, 4, 5, 6m, etc on all 4 string grips by simply stomping on the A & B pedals. When you take the pedals away, those changes are lost, and the tuning is not the easiest non-pedal tuning to play, in my humble opinion. Of course, Jerry Byrd could play a clothesline and make it sound good.
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Terrific. I enjoyed that.
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Post by Jim Mckay »

Jerry played a lot of Hawaiian songs in that E9th tuning.
This is one of them. " Kawohikukapulani"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5d9w2d6nQo
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Nice!
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It seems a common practice at his shows would be to take a break between standing at his ShoBud and sit with a JB Frypan and play E9 tunes …

These (and Kawohikukapulani) were from a 1990 Steel Guitar West Convention video tape I bought … featuring The Dwight Tokumoto band …

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It’s interesting to hear him play more major chords (triads) on this tuning than he usually plays on C6 tuning. E9 has more “straight bar” major chord options and I can hear that in his playing. It’s a nice change from C6, to my ears anyway.
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He also used forward slant major triads on strings 2, 3 and 5. By inserting the F# between the E and G# strings, he ensured that this slant would be in tune in Just Intonation.
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Thanks for posting, Doug. Quite a JB find and interesting tune that builds up the music tension before releasing it on the I chord. I've done a number of 6-string arrangements in this tuning including "Blues Guaranteed", where you can really hear the sound of the E9th tuning in the strum sections.

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Yes, he builds the tension in the chord changes and in the brisker tempo and then releases it by playing a slower tempo on the I chord. Very dynamic.