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Received my Clinesmith Electro today from Todd. Short scale, seven string in black. Tone on top and volume on the side makes it easy to get the boowah or a volume swell while strumming with the thumb. A very fine instrument indeed, I could not be happier.
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That is one sweet ride! Congratulations, Nathan. Just the one I would have chosen. 8)
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Stunning :whoa:
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Fabulous, congratulations!

I have a 7 string Clinesmith fry pan and it is an unbelievably nice instrument in every way.
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GBDGBD
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That's a beautiful guitar! Todd is a true artist. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks everyone. I was on the fence about which tuning to have it shipped with. I went C 6th just because it’s the tuning I know the best, but I really love F#m9 for the Dick Mcintire stuff. I’m not quite sure what the 7th string would be tuned to though. Anybody know? Or even C#m? Songs like Paradise Isle and Aloha Tears are too perfect for this guitar. I have an 8 string that makes more sense to use C6 in my opinion. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Post by Joe A. Roberts »

What a guitar! Stunning…

I’ve read old posts saying that McIntire’s seven string tuning had a middle C#:
E
C#
G#
E
C#
A
F#

I have never seen any evidence or source for that, and I personally don’t like it and think it kind of mucks up the tuning.

Mike Neer figured out that McIntire was using a high G# string on top, and you can really hear it on a lot of his later, circa early 40s recordings.
This would also give some familiarity overlap with C6th, since the top three strings will be the same intervallically.

My personal favorite choice is the classic Hawaiian E13th (aka C#min7th)
E
C#
G#
E
D
B
E
Still got the same top four strings as F#9th for those haunting slants, but is more versatile.
Aloha Tears, Paradise Isle, South Sea Island Magic, Nani Waimea, Rose of Waikiki, Twilight Blues…
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Thanks Joe! That’s what I’m looking for I’m going to string it up tomorrow.
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That is beautiful!
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Nathan Laudenbach wrote:Thanks everyone. I was on the fence about which tuning to have it shipped with. I went C 6th just because it’s the tuning I know the best, but I really love F#m9 for the Dick Mcintire stuff. I’m not quite sure what the 7th string would be tuned to though. Anybody know? Or even C#m? Songs like Paradise Isle and Aloha Tears are too perfect for this guitar. I have an 8 string that makes more sense to use C6 in my opinion. Any advice would be appreciated.
C13 is another option. Just C6 with a Bb on the bottom, BbCEGACE. There are also some nice E9 flavours that work well on 7 strings.
E9 – E B D F♯ G♯ B E
E9 – E G♯ B D F♯ B E
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Post by Nathan Laudenbach »

Thanks Allen I’ll have to look at C13 before I go changing strings. I can actually tune down to f#m9 on strings 1-5 without having to change strings, it gets a little flubby on string 5 but still works.
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Post by Sebastian Müller »

Mike Neer figured out that McIntire was using a high G# string on top, and you can really hear it on a lot of his later, circa early 40s recordings.
Do you have some examples for some of these songs or point us to the thread where this was discussed ?
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Sebastian Müller wrote:
Mike Neer figured out that McIntire was using a high G# string on top, and you can really hear it on a lot of his later, circa early 40s recordings.
Do you have some examples for some of these songs or point us to the thread where this was discussed ?
Sure, sorry, I should have included that in my post. Here is the thread:

viewtopic.php?t=268215

https://soundcloud.com/mdneer/dick-mcin ... pe14-sidea
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Great,

thank you Joe !
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Sebastian Müller wrote:Great,

thank you Joe !
Here is another good example:
https://archive.org/details/78_kehaulan ... ia0108903a

I think he definitely has a high third on top here. Using a normal C6th E C A G E C and mentally skipping the middle g string I can get the solos and chords, high up the neck...
That was recorded in 1939, Prety Red Hibiscus was 1936, for instance, I guess before he was using that higher string.

Maybe he was using a tenor guitar string (high A at 23" scale) to get the G#... Maybe tuned down a bit (I doubt it though because he plays quite high but who knows ;-) )