Who make Sho~Bud Perm changer replacements?

Liam Sullins · Post by **Liam Sullins** » 7 Jan 2022 5:19 am

Looking to find someone to duplicate me a changer for my mid 60's Perm. Any idea who does this?

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 7 Jan 2022 6:54 am

Be careful bro; if you replace the changer fingers with anything other than the exact metal they were made out of; you will change the sound. I'm sure, Sho~Bud used 6061 Aluminum in '60's-up-to-1974. So Again> THAT is the main ingredient in the sound of the Classic Sho~Bud Permanent pedal steel.
Ricky

Liam Sullins · Post by **Liam Sullins** » 7 Jan 2022 7:08 am

I found a Perm with no changers and I found one original changer online, just need to re-create the other set for the other neck!

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 7 Jan 2022 10:10 am

Liam Sullins · Post by **Liam Sullins** » 7 Jan 2022 10:51 am

It came from Jim in Orange County steel guitars. It was a parts guitar and someone tried to convert it to a Fingertip.

I contacted Bob Muller and he had converted a couple Perms to S-10s so he had one original changer and two tailpieces for the guitar.

Liam Sullins · Post by **Liam Sullins** » 7 Jan 2022 10:55 am

Here are the tailpieces and one original changer, the red one isn't one I'm getting.

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 7 Jan 2022 1:59 pm

Liam Sullins · Post by **Liam Sullins** » 7 Jan 2022 2:00 pm

Thanks man! It'll be a journey for sure..

Kenny Davis · Post by **Kenny Davis** » 7 Jan 2022 7:26 pm

Wow! Look at the necks and apron! I used to have a few old newsletter style Sho~Bud catalogs from the 60's and they offered several exotic woods. I remember Coco Bolo, Rosewood, Purple Heart and even Ebony. I wonder what is on this guitar?

J R Rose · Post by **J R Rose** » 8 Jan 2022 9:19 am

Kenny, My guess is that it is Ebony. I built an S-10 Ebony years back and it was nice. The wood can show a lot of different shades of color. J.R.

Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 8 Jan 2022 9:26 am

That looks like Indian rosewood to me. The inlays are unique too. It’s gonna be a great steel.

Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 8 Jan 2022 9:29 am

It looks like you’ve got a good set of fingers to copy. It should be a small job for a machinist to knock these out. 6061-T6 aluminum is what they should be made of, and a piece of drill rod for the axle.

Liam Sullins · Post by **Liam Sullins** » 8 Jan 2022 7:27 pm

Thanks guys..I'm not sure on the dark wood but I know it's going to be a killer steel!

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 9 Jan 2022 2:18 pm

Liam, Harry Jackson made new fingers for mine from the same 60-61 aluminum that the original ones were. The guitar was also refinished. The sound change 0%, it sounds exactly as it did before it was restored. Send the guitar to Harry, he built in the first place. And ignore the myths of it will change the sound. As long as the same materials are used it won't.

David Ball · Post by **David Ball** » 9 Jan 2022 3:53 pm

I saw pictures of what I assume might be this same steel from a few years ago--had kinda strange fingertip changers on it and looked like it had gotten wet. This one is looking great now! I agree with Johnny--get it to Harry to finish up as it should be finished!

I have an early sixties Madison rosewood permanent that looks a lot like that one--the inlays on yours are different and very nice! Mine sounds like a million bucks.

Dave

Liam Sullins · Post by **Liam Sullins** » 9 Jan 2022 7:41 pm

David do you happen to have any saved pictures of that? It'd be cool to see!

David Ball · Post by **David Ball** » 10 Jan 2022 3:37 am

Here's a couple of shots of my Rosewood perm.

Daniel Baston · Post by **Daniel Baston** » 10 Jan 2022 5:58 am

David, your guitar also looks like a million bucks!

Liam, please keep us updated this is an exciting project!

Dick Sexton · Post by **Dick Sexton** » 10 Jan 2022 6:30 am

Nice find, Liam! Gonna be a tone monster!

Liam Sullins · Post by **Liam Sullins** » 10 Jan 2022 7:02 am

Thanks guys! I'll keep a rebuild log posted here.

Liam Sullins · Post by **Liam Sullins** » 19 Jan 2022 6:07 pm

Well I got the guitar last week and I've been working on it along with a Fingertip I got..
I've decided to make my own undercarriage based off of the Fingertip style undercarriage. Just waiting on some parts to come in. Meanwhile here is the guitar! I think this one is a 1964 Permanent. I'll be needing 6 pedals if anyone has some! I have two already. Harry Jackson is making me a changer for the C6 neck as I have one for E9.

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