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Colin Keyworth


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Derbyshire, England
Post  Posted 30 May 2020 5:07 am    
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Hi ,I have an LDG which I believe is a 79,I wondered if it would be possible to find a little but more info about its journey

Serial number #14369
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Rick Abbott

 

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Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 30 May 2020 7:38 am     Re: Sho Bud Ser #
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Gene Haugh wrote:
Month Year Serial Numbers
Begining End

March 1971 1001 1016
April 1017 1113
May 1114 1213
June 1214 1312
July 1313 1359
August 1360 1454
September 1455 1549
October 1550 1643
November 1644 1740
December 1741 1835


January 1972 1836 1931
February 1932 1962
March 1963 2033
April 2034 2129
May 2130 2224
June 2225 2309
July 2310 2448
August 2449 2551
September 2552 2647
October 2648 2754
November 2755 2900
December 2901 2946


January 1973 2947 3062
February 3063 3160
March 3161 3282
April 3283 3391
May 3392 3504
June 3505 3607
July 3608 3751
August 3752 3997
September 3998 4193
October 4194 4394
November 4395 4583
December 4584 4766


January 1974 4767 4958
February 4959 5129
March 5130 5306
April 5307 5417
May 5418 5677
June 5678 5877
July 5878 6024
August 6025 6175
September 6166 6346
October 6347 6504
November 6505 6734
December 6735 6897


January 1975 6898 7000
numbers from 7001 to 8109 are lost
8110 8210
February 8211 8395
March 8396 8576
April 8577 8758
May 8759 8936
June 8937 9117
July 9118 9293
August 9294 9473
September 9475 9652
October 9653 9723
November 9724 9814
December 9815 9948


January 1976 9949 10124
February 10125 10343
March 10344 10446
April 10447 10676
May 10677 10767
June 10768 10827
July 10828 10887
August 10888 11105
September 11106 11186
October 11187 11292
November 11293 11354
December 11355 11407


January 1977 11408 11627
February 14628 11702
March 11703 11821
April 11822 11876
May 11877 12065
June 12066 12141
July 12142 12367
August 12368 12469
September 12470 12537
October 12538 12639
November 12640 12823
December 12824 12924


January 1978 12925 12975
February 12976 13033
March 13034 13112
April 13113 13170
May 13171 13350
June 13351 13406
July 13407 13474
August 13475 13597
September 13598 13709
October 13710 13918
November 13919 13993
December 13994 14072


January 1979 14073 14112
Febuary 14113 14297
March 14299 14499
April 14500 14544
May 14545 14608
June 14609 14784
July 14785 14912
August 14913 14940
September 14941 15044
October 15045 15172
November 15173 15294
December 15295 15352


January 1980 15353 15467
FEBUARY 15468 15521
March 15522 15524
April 15525 15552
May 15553 15601
June 15602 15670
July 15671 15689
August 15690 15741
September 15742 15806
October 15807 15872
November 15873 15933
December 15934 15996


January 1981 15997 16078
February 16079 16166
March 16167 16293
April 16294 16424
May 16425 16574
June 16575 16719
July 16720 16811
August 16812 16989
September 16990 17124
October 17125 17268
November 17269 17366
December 17367 17440


January 1982 17441 17510
February 17511 17580
March 17581 17660
April 17661 17711
May 17712 17755
June 17756 17799
July 17780 17810
17811 18028


1987 18566 18597


1988 18598 18618


1989 18619 18641


1990 18642 18660


1991 18661 18675


1994 18676 18686


1995 18687 18696


2000 18697 18698



Let's quote the list and bring it into today.

THANK YOU GENE!!
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Barry Burton


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Post  Posted 3 Jun 2020 11:19 am     Sn
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Could someone date a D10 PP I purchased please 6737, thanks
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Barry Burton


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Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 3 Jun 2020 1:07 pm    
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Sorry I didn't realize this was a Sho-Bud thread senior moment I guess.
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Derek Ralston


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Post  Posted 19 Jun 2020 12:12 pm    
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Thanks to everyone for all of the fantastic info!

If anyone has any information about the pedigree of my S-12 #15946, I would appreciate it.
It came to me as a 7 pedal / 6 knee in a different flavor of E9 Universal from Bobbe Seymour at SGW.
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Pat Moore


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Post  Posted 5 Jul 2020 1:29 pm     My Bud
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I haven't been able to find my original D10 Pro II that I bought around '76 to buy back, so this is my new old Bud I'm picking up tomorrow!
1975 LDG Serial # 8525. This thing must've been in the case for years! All original, just serviced by a pro mechanic and ready to go!πŸ‘πŸŽΆπŸŽΆ


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Michael Yahl


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Post  Posted 6 Jul 2020 6:17 am    
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Pat, Roughly 3/20/75
Does it have the tag with the builders name still on it ?
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Pat Moore


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Post  Posted 6 Jul 2020 2:41 pm    
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Hi Michael,
Naw, first thing I looked for. It is signed by Lloyd underneath in '91.
Has the 'tone'!
Thx for helping w/info! Pat
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Rick Abbott

 

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Post  Posted 6 Jul 2020 2:45 pm    
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Derek Ralston wrote:
Thanks to everyone for all of the fantastic info!

If anyone has any information about the pedigree of my S-12 #15946, I would appreciate it.
It came to me as a 7 pedal / 6 knee in a different flavor of E9 Universal from Bobbe Seymour at SGW.


December of 1980 as per the list a few posts up. Cheers!
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1953 Stromberg-Carlson AU-35
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Paul Langtry

 

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Chippewa Bay,ny
Post  Posted 14 Jul 2020 7:46 pm     Re: Sho Bud Serial #12334
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Chris LeDrew wrote:
Gene Haugh wrote:
Jimmy. My name is Gene Haugh And I have just joined the Forum. I worked for Gretsch/Sho-Bud From 1966 to 2002.
I took over the Sho-Bud Division in 1980 when it was moved to Conway Arkansas. The serial number on a Sho-Bud steel was in numerical order. It had nothing to do with the model or date. Your Guitar is a Model 6143
It was built 4/11/1972, It was built by L.T. And OK'd by H.J. It was shipped 4/27/1972 to the Fred Gretsch Co. in Elmhurst Ill.


Gene....welcome to the forum! Your ability to decipher Sho~Bud serial numbers is akin to "the world is round" discovery. You are going to be a busy man around here, as Joe has remarked. Smile



Hello Gene, If you have the time could you tell the age of my Sho-Bud #12334 ? Anything at all is more than I've got on this guitar .Thanks up front, Paul
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Michael Yahl


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Post  Posted 15 Jul 2020 3:58 am    
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Paul,

Close to 8/1/77. Please provide color, model, built by, and any other pertinent info about your guitar.

Thanks
Michael
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Paul Langtry

 

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Chippewa Bay,ny
Post  Posted 15 Jul 2020 4:44 am     reply for info on #12334 MAVERICK
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Michael Yahl wrote:
Paul,

Close to 8/1/77. Please provide color, model, built by, and any other pertinent info about your guitar.

Thanks
Michael



Hello Michael,

My SHO-BUD is a Maverick , looks like maple covered with a brown material,single neck 10string . I wish it was finished maple rather than covered with that brown material . That's all I know about this unit Paul
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Rob Rohde-Szudy

 

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Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 7 Aug 2020 6:42 am    
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Just to add to the collective knowledge, my Sho Bud is serial # 12530. I guess it must be a Pro I from 1977 - 3+4 and nylon tuners and pot metal fingers. Oddly, the changer is 2 raise 2 lower, except the E strings, which are 3 raise 2 lower. I'm not sure if that is a later modification or a transitional factory offering.



Speaking of mods, I have resurfaced the grooved fingers with the stainless steel tape, though I don't really expect that to be a permanent solution. Long term I'll probably make new 6061 aluminum fingers and convert it to a Kline mechanism by adding a 1/8" steel drilled end plate. (Yes, I'll post a thread when I get there, since I know the Kline fans will want to know about it.)
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Pamela Gitta


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Chattanooga, TN
Post  Posted 23 Sep 2020 1:38 pm    
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My sisters and I are looking at our father's Sho-Bud Professional, and we were planning to come here and request a ballpark price. But instead, we've got a mystery.



I've been reading the forum in an attempt to keep from making a fool of myself, and stumbled upon your local treasure, Mr. Gene Haugh, and all his information.

The mystery is: we believe we've found the serial number: 7971, which is one of Gene's missing numbers. BUT... we also have the receipt from when Dad bought it (new), and it was purchased in July 1971. Near as I can tell from all of these serial numbers, that number shouldn't have come along until 1975.

There is no paper label on the body, so I don't know what model it is. It's just that four-digit number engraved on a plate.

Does anyone have info I don't that would help to explain this?

Edit: Sorry the picture is so huge
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Rick Abbott

 

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Post  Posted 23 Sep 2020 3:42 pm    
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I'd have to go on a wild search to explain my answer, but the info is available on the forum...somewhere, I should have copied it. I have 7962 and it was made in Nov-Dec of 1970. Your guitar is a very late 1970 or very early 1971. The numbers skip 7001-8109. Some of those were custom, or experimental, but some were used on guitars like ours.

It should be a FANASTIC guitar. Mine has "the tone" Sho~Bud is legendary for. I paid 2300 a few years ago. It was set up by Ricky Davis. Mine and the one you picture are "The Professional" model.
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Pamela Gitta


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Chattanooga, TN
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2020 7:20 am    
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Thanks, Rick. I appreciate the quick response.

I love me some steel guitar (of course) but since I don't play, I'm not familiar with the subtleties of "tone." But I do know that Dad was mighty proud of that instrument, and took exceptional care of it. Our first goal is to see that it goes to a good home. Smile
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Steven Hicken


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Leeds, United Kingdom
Post  Posted 24 Oct 2020 9:01 am     Dad's Bud
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Just had a sneaky look under my dad's and his SN is 16301 which nails it down to April 1981. It was an export to the UK and I believe he got it the same year (Brand New).

Does anyone have any further info such as who it was built by please? It would be really cool to tell dad.

Sho Bud Pro 1

Many thanks

Steven Hicken Jr.
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winston

 

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Frankfort, Kentucky 40601
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2020 9:08 am    
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My Lloyd Green is a 6150 serial number 10043. I bought it new in 1976 I think. Winston May
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John Ciano

 

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New Jersey, USA
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2020 5:46 pm    
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Hello Michael and fellow Sho-Budders. I have been watching this thread for about a year but my Bud has been quarantined at a band mate's house for all of that time. I just got it back and here is the info. Professional (6143?) s/n 1958. 8 x 4 but I am sure that at least two knees were not originally on the guitar. I bought it around '95 I think from a fellow in AZ. Log me in and if any other info is available about the guitar I would be grateful to hear about it. John
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Ian Worley


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Sacramento, CA
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2020 11:45 pm    
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Pamela Gitta wrote:
...The mystery is: we believe we've found the serial number: 7971, which is one of Gene's missing numbers. BUT... we also have the receipt from when Dad bought it (new), and it was purchased in July 1971. Near as I can tell from all of these serial numbers, that number shouldn't have come along until 1975.

There is no paper label on the body, so I don't know what model it is. It's just that four-digit number engraved on a plate.

Does anyone have info I don't that would help to explain this?


The "lost" serial numbers 7001-8109 on Gene's list aren't actually lost, they were used on the Baldwin era guitars between '67 and early '71. They just skipped over those numbers when the numeric sequence reached 7000 in Jan '75 since they had already been used.

As Rick said, your dad's guitar is a very early Professional, it's the model that followed the Crossover (Crossovers were kind of the Edsel of steel guitars), and was probably built in late '70-early '71. It has different inlay banding than the rope style common on later Professionals, which mostly have serial numbers in the 1000-4000 range. Did your dad buy it direct from Sho-Bud, or from a music store? It would cool to see the sales receipt if that's not too personal.

Rick - does yours have that same zig-zag inlay?
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Tom Rierden

 

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Washington, USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2020 3:50 pm     sho-bud maverick mechanical help....
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There was a pedal steel guitar for sale on the sales board at our post office.
For Sale:Pedal Steel Guitar/$250/Old/needs work...
So I called and talked to the daughter of owner who had passed away.
I thought it was pretty nice guitar so I bought it.It's a Sho-Bud maverick/yellow.
I'm just now getting to setting it up.Very basic guitar compared to my GFI.
No knee levers.I put new strings on.It stays in tune pretty good.However when I press on the pedals to activate the string pulls.They aren't in tune.Above the jack are 10 tuners for the strings.They are tuned with an alan wrench.However,I can't find the correct size of wrench.I believe they might be stripped out.
Could someone out there in PSGland steer me to someone who knows more about this model then I?
Thank You Very Much!
Tom Rierden
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Rick Abbott

 

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Post  Posted 18 Feb 2021 3:45 pm    
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Ian Worley wrote:
Pamela Gitta wrote:
...The mystery is: we believe we've found the serial number: 7971, which is one of Gene's missing numbers. BUT... we also have the receipt from when Dad bought it (new), and it was purchased in July 1971. Near as I can tell from all of these serial numbers, that number shouldn't have come along until 1975.

There is no paper label on the body, so I don't know what model it is. It's just that four-digit number engraved on a plate.

Does anyone have info I don't that would help to explain this?



Rick - does yours have that same zig-zag inlay?



Yes, indeed it does. It is the same color as well and #7962 (Nov-Dec 1970). Probably made a week or two before Pamela's dad's guitar.
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1953 Stromberg-Carlson AU-35
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Kevin Winsett

 

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Kentucky, USA
Post  Posted 24 Feb 2021 4:46 pm     Sho-Bud Steel Guitar
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I am buying a Sho-Bud Lloyd Green and was wondering about the year
Serial: Number 14268
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Kevin Mincke


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Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
Post  Posted 24 Feb 2021 5:14 pm    
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Feb 1979
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