Pass the Booze E.T. 1964 Emmons or Charleton?

Jerry Overstreet · Post by **Jerry Overstreet** » 17 May 2018 10:52 am

https://youtu.be/YUGwKxWzNas
Which one on this cut? Solo about 1:20.

Mitch Drumm · Post by **Mitch Drumm** » 17 May 2018 11:13 am

I think Charleton on the original 1964 cut, but I have not cross-checked to confirm that your link is to that version.

Greg Cutshaw · Post by **Greg Cutshaw** » 17 May 2018 12:03 pm

Elmer Lee Charlton:

"From the spring of 1962 until the fall of 1973, Mr. Charleton was a featured Troubadour, playing crucial steel licks on Tubb’s classic honky-tonk material"

from here:

http://etrecordshop.com/charletontrib.htm

Buddy also played on this album:

https://www.allmusic.com/album/blue-den ... 0001136824

Jerry Overstreet · Post by **Jerry Overstreet** » 17 May 2018 3:03 pm

I was curious if anyone could tell just by listening. I didn't research their eras of work nor the credits online. I guessed Emmons.

Bobby Boggs · Post by **Bobby Boggs** » 17 May 2018 3:46 pm

I knew it was Charlton from the start. Charlton's execution, phrasing, and note choices never sounded like Emmons to me. To my ears, Charlton was heavily influenced by both Day and Emmons. But sounded more like Day than Emmons. Particularly on medium and up tempo tunes. After a short time, I felt he kinda found his own ground. And sounded like Buddy Charlton. Your mileage may vary.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 17 May 2018 3:46 pm

Charleton's sweet Sho-Bud tone, all the way!

Jerry Overstreet · Post by **Jerry Overstreet** » 17 May 2018 4:06 pm

Thanks fellas. I'm almost embarrassed to say I was never all that familiar with Charleton's style and sound. It was only in later years that I became aware of all his contribution to the music.

I just have to plead ignorance in this case, but I'm obviously uneducated to BC's style and tone and honestly just did not know. I do know that Emmon's sound changed quite a bit over the years and I could probably never i.d. him in the early years of music.

Dave Campbell · Post by **Dave Campbell** » 17 May 2018 4:48 pm

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john buffington · Post by **john buffington** » 17 May 2018 7:55 pm

Listening to Buddy Charleton's playing, it seems he had a certain amount of "bounce" or kick to his playing. His tone is consistent on either brand of guitars Sho-Bud or Emmons IMO! For my ears, his style defined the ET sound better than any of the other great steel players he had. Just my opinion. Like John Hughey made the Conway Twitty sound.

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 17 May 2018 9:13 pm

Very unique sound on the solo. EchoPlex?

W. C. Edgar · Post by **W. C. Edgar** » 18 May 2018 7:51 am

Yeah I can tell from just listening
Charlton
Ernest Tubb was the sole reason I got into what I do and I've been immersed in his sound since the beginning.....

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 18 May 2018 8:43 am

One of my favorite E.T. tunes...
Practice to it, but I'll not be able to reproduce it from my fingers in this lifetime...

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 18 May 2018 12:04 pm

b0b wrote:Very unique sound on the solo. EchoPlex?

I don't hear any echo, just a lot of reverb.

Bob Knight · Post by **Bob Knight** » 18 May 2018 12:54 pm

Buddy only used amp reverb in those days,Sho~Bud Amp.

Clyde Mattocks · Post by **Clyde Mattocks** » 18 May 2018 7:23 pm

During this period, some players were using two amps, one completly dry and the other very wet. sounds to me on this record, they forgot to mix in the dry one.

Joerg Hennig · Post by **Joerg Hennig** » 19 May 2018 8:32 am

If you want to get familiar with Buddy Charleton's style, some other tunes that are great examples of his E9 playing are:

The Way That You're Living Is Breaking My Heart
Drivin' Nails In My Coffin
Lonesome 7-7203
Mr. Juke Box
Your Side Of The Story
Just Call me Lonesome
Be Better To Your Baby
Beyond The Last Mile

There's a lot more of course, not to forget all the C6 stuff that is absolutely brilliant. Also worth checking out are the duets of Ernest Tubb and Loretta Lynn, most of those are loaded with Buddy's steel.

Brendan Mitchell · Post by **Brendan Mitchell** » 19 May 2018 6:07 pm

I have trouble with YouTube clips telling these two apart !

Jerry Overstreet · Post by **Jerry Overstreet** » 20 May 2018 7:17 am

To further display my ignorance and slightly aside, I'm thinking it's the late, great Leon Rhodes in this video doing those iconic licks so associated with E.T.'s music, but wasn't Billy Byrd the guitar player that created those signature runs? Butterball was slightly before my time, but I don't think he was the one that did that.

Brian Gattis · Post by **Brian Gattis** » 20 May 2018 8:24 am

Yep its Leon Rhodes

Glenn Suchan · Post by **Glenn Suchan** » 22 May 2018 8:31 am

Just for comparison of tone and style, here's a live recording of ET doing "Drivin' Nails in my Coffin" with Leon and the Big E. ( I love it at 2:11 when ET says, "I Think Shot Jackson is looking' for ya"

):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnEMOQTh27s

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn

Joerg Hennig · Post by **Joerg Hennig** » 22 May 2018 11:11 am

This is just my personal opinion, but with all respect to Buddy E., I think in those days sometimes he would try to "show off" just a little too much, whereas Buddy C.'s playing would just fit in perfectly within the overall Texas Troubadours' sound, even if it may have been technically simpler sometimes. To me, Buddy C. will always be THE Texas Troubadours steel player, especially together with Leon Rhodes, those two were like a match made in heaven.

Gary Hoetker · Post by **Gary Hoetker** » 23 May 2018 7:31 pm

Well said. Couldn't agree with you more.

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Pass the Booze E.T. 1964 Emmons or Charleton?

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