Ed Naylor's supply of parts

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 9 Mar 2005 6:51 pm

Does anyone know if someone has bought Ed's parts./ I had ordered a shobud key head and it was to be mailed the day he passed away. I wonder how I can get this part!!

Mike Weirauch · Post by **Mike Weirauch** » 9 Mar 2005 8:27 pm

Damn! At least let him cool down to room temperature before looking for the estate sale.

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 9 Mar 2005 8:41 pm

Way to go Mike. That makes my day.

autry andress · Post by **autry andress** » 10 Mar 2005 5:52 pm

I'm bettin you will never get it.

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 10 Mar 2005 6:52 pm

I don't think it's a tough question to ask at all.

Too many people have jobs or lives in which anything bigger than a paper cut, or indigestion is a wild stretch of what their day can bring. Way too many for my taste. It breeds naivety and unreliable succession of personal affairs.

I specifically asked Duane Marrs, like I have several people that have rebuilt things for me like a $13000 harley motor if they have made SPECIFIC contingency plans if a train should run over them, or lightning strike them god forbid.

Duane Marrs had no problem at all telling me that Jeff Surratt would handle all estate type business, or his wife, should both Jeff and he perish in the same incident, or both laugh themselves to death over the same Sho~Bud historical absurdity.

I have a job that entails my being in and out of machinery I am loading in heavy traffic, and I know many others work with the most poisonous and unstable of chemicals, antigens, and other matter of fact, daily menaces. Acts of God, and physical infirmities on top of that. I have had many days when I doubted being able to come home at the end of. A gig or two thataway as well..

Myself, I make sure there is a signed check in the desk draw, for my spouse to back date and empty the account of, a number on my computer case for a friend to unlock and deal with my HDDs, and my will is current, and notarized semi-annualy. ( My guitars know where they will go, just like my dogs. To my wife's new boy friend.)

Anybody in business that does not do this, especially while handling other people's valuable possessions, is not thinking clearly.

Possibly it is the poster's fault for not asking these specific pointed, relavant, and reasonable questions, though it is not his burden nor responsibility in reasonable community particiation in a civlized world.

It doesn't seem like a big deal either way as it's a pretty small part.

It is simple and easy to ask people like Duane and Jeff, Bobbe, or other people I have dealt with in other business, this very human, and non offensive question.

We all die, bless our hearts..

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 11 March 2005 at 01:18 AM.]

Jim Phelps · Post by **Jim Phelps** » 10 Mar 2005 8:02 pm

We all die

Yeah, but I think most people don't really believe it until it happens...

Scott Denniston · Post by **Scott Denniston** » 10 Mar 2005 8:08 pm

Thanks Eric. Very well spoken.

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 10 Mar 2005 9:02 pm

Well, it's all really a matter of degree and what constitutes a respectable amount of time following someone's demise, isn't it? Even though we all die, and "death is a part of life" and blah, blah, blah, I'm sure even Eric wouldn't dream of asking the widow at the funeral when he might see the parts he ordered. So, it really comes down to waiting a respectable time before broaching such subjects with the survivors who, most likely, have more than a few other things on their minds at the moment. What constitutes "respectable" is, alas, open to debate.

Jim Phelps · Post by **Jim Phelps** » 10 Mar 2005 9:25 pm

Well-put, Jim.

David Doggett · Post by **David Doggett** » 10 Mar 2005 10:12 pm

Yes, it is so sad about Ed. It may be too early to start worrying about individual cases. But I hope there is some knowledgeable person who can advise Ed's heirs about what to do with his large supply of parts. I believe his is the biggest stock in existence of old Sho-Bud parts, and probably also other brands. It would be a great shame if his heirs did not understand the true worth of all those parts, and did not know how to dispose of them and get their true value. It would also be a great tragedy for the steel community if those parts did not end up with someone who was able to pay their full value and keep them available to the steel community. Ed would have wanted that. Is there anyone in contact with Ed's family that understands all of this? I hope there is someone his family can trust. At some point, when they are ready, they deserve to get the proper price for what was Ed's life work.

Mike Weirauch · Post by **Mike Weirauch** » 10 Mar 2005 10:12 pm

Thank you Jim Cohen. I was beginning to think my statement went right over everyone's head.

Jennings Ward · Post by **Jennings Ward** » 10 Mar 2005 10:15 pm

MR. JENRY, DID IT OCCUR TO YOU TO GET YOUR PART ELSEWHERE???I AM SURE THAT 20 BUCKS IS NOT GOING TO SEND YOU TO THE POOR HOUSE, ALTHOUGH IT WOULD GIVE ME A STATRT.....THESE THINGS HAPPEN TO ALL OF US...ED WAS A GOOD HEARTED MAN AND MAYBE TRIED TO WORK LONGER THAN HE SHOULD HAVE.... I DONT KNOW.... BUT WHEN I DIE, THEY CAN HAVE A BALL. AND FIGHT OVER EVERYTHING......I AM GOING TO LEAVE THEM THE SAME THING THAT HAS BEEN LEFT TO ME...NOTHING......IF IT IS WORTH HAVING, IT IS WORTH WORKING FOR.....I DO NOT BELIEVE IN FREE RIDES.......AND MR WEST, WHAT IS YOUR POINT??? JENNINGS

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Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 11 Mar 2005 1:15 am

I've never been able to let a passing dog go by without at least thinking of grabbing his ears..

I don't know the original poster, but I don't think his question can be equated with rifling the widow's purse after knocking her down at the funeral. At least it didn't read thataway to me. And no, even I probably wouldn't do that..

Sheesh..

Maybe it might be a word to the wise for those handling other people's stuff, taking orders, etc. It's wise to consider it. Especially to those that are as considerate as Ed seemed to be.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Bill you take my saddle, George you can have my bed.

Jack may have my pistol, after I am dead... -Unknown-<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

EJL

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 11 Mar 2005 2:33 am

I personally didn't read anything into TB's question that was out of line. HE is not asking Ed's wife or family..he is asking if anyone here has any information.

At some point he is going to have to ask one of Ed's surviving family members something about this.

My wife does busines at trade shows, she comes home with Bo-Koo orders prepaid..God forbid something happen to her , I'm certain I would appreciate a period of time but at some point her customers who prepaid are going to call to see whats up..

It's very awkward for sure..

t

Larry Robbins · Post by **Larry Robbins** » 11 Mar 2005 3:52 am

I agree an awkward position for sure and one that I certianly wouldn't want to be in myself.Wanting to have the parts to fininsh
a project that you are passionate about but,trying to be respectful of the situation....I dont envy our friend TB.
Eric: Good advice on getting and keeping all of your ducks in a row. As for me....I hide all my money and valuables....If they cant find them after your gone, its as good as if you took them with you!

Farris Currie · Post by **Farris Currie** » 11 Mar 2005 4:39 am

Respect each comment made> but seen it a few times,my brother n law passed away 2yrs. ago,having a nice wood working buss.at the day of the funneral,the VOLTURES were at work!!trying to get in the shop.I just hope someone will know how to deal with EDS stuff.If not it will be gone before anyone even knows it.

Jennings,man i thought you had left those guitars to me!!!man i let down now!!!!haha
farris

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 11 Mar 2005 5:09 am

Mike and Farris I take great exception to your comments and implications.

Ed was a dear friend of mine and we spent many hours on the phone talking about our favorite subject - steel guitars. In fact two days before his death we had a long conversation about keyheads and he had one ready to send me.

Mike, you obviously didn't know Ed or you would never have reacted in such a harsh way. Ed was a gentle soul - he cared for people and was very kind to animals. Never once did I hear him ever use the word "damn." Your reaction was nothing more than an emotional outburst devoid of any logic.

Farris, I am very disappointed in your response - vultures indeed!!

If you both read my post again you will see that I asked an honest question whether anyone knew if someone had bought Ed's parts.

It really only required a "yes" or "no" answer

Darvin Willhoite · Post by **Darvin Willhoite** » 11 Mar 2005 5:58 am

The question didn't seem unreasonable to me either. I was in the same situation several years ago. I ordered some ZB parts from Basil Smith soon after he bought the ZB company. He was sadly killed in a car accident before the parts were shipped. I called to check on the parts the day it happened and his son told me the news. I waited a couple of months before calling his wife and luckily she had the the letter I had sent with the order. She knew nothing about ZB's or their parts but she refunded my money with no problem. She handled the whole situation very well. Hopefully this situation will work out that way also.

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Mike Weirauch · Post by **Mike Weirauch** » 11 Mar 2005 6:49 am

Etiquette: The practices and forms prescribed by social convention or by authority.

In the 35 years I have spent in funeral service I think I have a firm idea of what to and WHEN to. My response might have been more to the point than Jim Cohen's response but they both say the same thing, "it ain't time yet!" Give his widow a chance to catch her breath and gather her composure because closing the book on someone's life is the most difficult thing that faces them. In a "Dick & Jane" response, maybe I should have just said "Chill TB, it ain't time yet!"

As far as knowing Ed, yes I did but that doesn't belong in this thread. Also, I see nothing wrong with Farris' comments. He presents a good example of improper etiquette.

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 11 Mar 2005 6:49 am

"I was beginning to think my statement went right over everyone's head."

That is what usually happens to emotional outbursts!!

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 11 Mar 2005 6:53 am

Mike. An Undertaker?

This is getting better and better....

Gotta run.

EJL

Mike Weirauch · Post by **Mike Weirauch** » 11 Mar 2005 6:54 am

I was beginning to think my statement went right over everyone's head.

......and

That is what usually happens to emotional outbursts!!

No, it did exactly that! It went right over your head. You're wriggling like a worm in hot ashes TB, you jumped the gun and you cannot make anything more of it than that.

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 11 Mar 2005 6:55 am

I ONLY ASKED WHETHER ANYONE KNEW WHETHER SOMEONE HAD BOUGHT ED'S PARTS. I DID NOT ASK FOR A SERMON FROM A "FUNERAL DIRECTOR!!"
ONCE AGAIN A SIMPLE YES/NO ANSWER WAS ALL THAT WAS REQUIRED.

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 11 Mar 2005 6:59 am

Do all funeral directors express surprise by using "damn" or is it just you??

Mike Weirauch · Post by **Mike Weirauch** » 11 Mar 2005 7:00 am

Mike. An Undertaker?

Yep! 35 years of days, nights, weekends, holidays, birthdays................well, you get the idea. It's a little more than a hobby.