Bobbe Seymour 's push pull being sold on Ebay

[Ken Byng]

that is a awesome playing and sounding guitar, and if I had money I would buy it, another thing is you can send in an offer, so 10K is not set in stone... and as far as Bobbe goes, I would suggest little less trash talk, and little more respect for the man...thank you

Damir
for those of us who would regularly see and hear this guitar every time we saw Bobbe at his store, it is another stark reminder that the guy is gone. If I ever dropped in to see him, Bobbe would give me a huge bear hug and take me next door to his workshop. He would proudly sit behind that Emmons and play away to his heart's content. There is no doubt that he was very emotionally attached to that guitar. We both know that. If the dollar / pound exchange rate was better I would certainly make an offer for the guitar just for old times sake. If Lucker wouldn't touch it - who cares?

[Jeff Spencer]

Are the screws in the end plates on the front apron standard?

[Damir Besic]

that is a awesome playing and sounding guitar, and if I had money I would buy it, another thing is you can send in an offer, so 10K is not set in stone... and as far as Bobbe goes, I would suggest little less trash talk, and little more respect for the man...thank you

Damir
for those of us who would regularly see and hear this guitar every time we saw Bobbe at his store, it is another stark reminder that the guy is gone. If I ever dropped in to see him, Bobbe would give me a huge bear hug and take me next door to his workshop. He would proudly sit behind that Emmons and play away to his heart's content. There is no doubt that he was very emotionally attached to that guitar. We both know that. If the dollar / pound exchange rate was better I would certainly make an offer for the guitar just for old times sake. If Lucker wouldn't touch it - who cares?

I agree my friend...Bobbe and his steel guitar store were a heart of the Nashville steel guitar scene, there was no telling who will show up in there... everyone knew Bobbe, and Bobbe knew everybody... I will always miss him...

[Damir Besic]

Are the screws in the end plates on the front apron standard?

I don't know about the screws Jeff, but I can guarantee you, this is an exceptional guitar, playing, and tone wise...tweaked and set up to perfection...

[Herb Steiner]

Not commenting on anything anyone has said here about this guitar or my friend Bobbe, but only to objectively say that the two screws going through the front endplate ears are not stock, and the decal is not one from the Emmons Co., but rather a design the Bobbe had made and has had for about 30 years.

[Mark Hershey]

Awesome guitar from a real legend.

I'm a huge Bobbe fan. Early on when I wanted to buy a psg I found his youtube videos and articles very helpful.

RIP, never met him but certainly enjoyed his writing and playing.

[Chris Lucker]

Bobbe told me and he also told Jon Brandt that the screws through the ears were Factory -- the only guitar Emmons made that way.

Ahem.

Bobbe glued the guitar's two cabinet top decks together down the center, therefore he could not get the cabinet to fit tightly in the endplates.

He did the cabinet gluing thing with a fake Wraparound with necks he had Brian Adams make for him.

[Damir Besic]

Bobbe told me and he also told Jon Brandt that the screws through the ears were Factory -- the only guitar Emmons made that way

lmao ... yes, I can see Bobbe doing that ... but for probably much different reasons than you may think...

[Chris Lucker]

No, he told me why he did it when I called him on it.

Bobbe also fessed up to this guitar as not being a Sho-Bud:






Here is the thread before Bobbe admitted he had made the guitar in Texas. The guitar has great Bigsby-ish raised graphics cast aluminum fretboards and Danny Shields pickups. It is actually better than any Permanent I have had. Under the necks it is marked with Bobbe's initials and I assume Danny Shields' initials and MA -- Maurice Anderson's initials? and '61. Don't see Shot Jackson's initials anywhere and Bobbe admitted there was never a Sho-Bud sticker on the front.

I cannot get the link below to work, but you can search the author Stan Schober thread "Is this a Permanent?"

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=167011

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[David Mitchell]

I've been an eBay customer and merchant for about 15 years on eBay. I've bought and sold at least a dozen D-10 and SD-10's on eBay and as stated earlier a newbie with Zero feedback and a $10,000.00 item for their first sale sends up a big red flag for me. I personally feel nobody is gonna pay it anyway but even if they want to they should make contact with this person if they can and get to know the person. You can tell if they are on the up by the people they know and what they know about a pedal steel. If you can'T converse before the transaction with this seller I wouldn'T touch it with a 50 ft. pole. Might be legit but proceed with extreme caution, know it's history and the seller.

[Chris Lucker]

But isn't that how people buy more expensive items on ebay anyway?

You make contact with the seller and jump through a couple hoops to proceed offline. It eliminates some looky lous

Ebay is a promotional medium for higher priced items. It is like when the Les Paul showed up on Pawn Stars. It was not for sale at the Pawn Shop. The show was used to advertise that the guitar was for sale by its owner. For higher priced items, eBay advertises that the item is for sale by the owner and off-line discussions may begin.

[Henry Matthews]

Not to get off topic but I think that seller feedback crap on Ebay is unfair to honest people. I never do Ebay but what if I had say and expensive violin. Ebay would be the best place to sell it. Would anyone even look at it if I had zero feedback?

[Tim Russell]

But isn't that how people buy more expensive items on ebay anyway?

You make contact with the seller and jump through a couple hoops to proceed offline. It eliminates some looky lous

Ebay is a promotional medium for higher priced items. It is like when the Les Paul showed up on Pawn Stars. It was not for sale at the Pawn Shop. The show was used to advertise that the guitar was for sale by its owner. For higher priced items, eBay advertises that the item is for sale by the owner and off-line discussions may begin.

Last time I checked, which was several years ago, ebay frowned upon this & it would be grounds for terminating the sellers/buyers account. They want you to use their system so they get the percentage from the sale. Of course, if they don't catch it, I suppose it happens all the time.

I personally wouldn't want to risk my longstanding account and the reputation I've built over the years on that practice.

[Chris Lucker]

If you had an expensive violin, which probably means a rare violin, and someone was looking for that violin, but they did not contact you about the violin because you had no feedback, then they were not serious about buying that violin.

If it was a cheap violin, then feedback is more important because it is not worth the effort to develop direct contact and dialogue with the seller.

[Damir Besic]

It's Bobbe's guitar, seller is located in Hendersonville, and her name is Michelle... ... come on now, we all know where guitar is, if you're interested get on the phone and call

[David Mitchell]

Hey there you go! I've done lots of smooth painless business with Damir Besic of steelguitarsonline.com . I highly recommend his opinion and word. Let Damir be your mediator. If no one has bid it can still be sold offline. Better show up with all the cash. I would say no if you show up with no money. Like the other comments ebay is great for show and tell and besides ebay, paypal and the shippers wind up with about 30% of your money when it is all said and done. I know.

[Herb Steiner]

Just a personal comment about my friend Bobbe Seymour, whom I loved to hang with if only for entertainment purposes. And he always bought lunch.

But we all know that he had a BS side to him, I think it was part of his charm, some of the outrageous stuff I've seen, and the claims he made about who owned what and who did what and at what time. Truthful or exaggerated, or even total BS, the man had stories to tell.

My favorite Bobbe-ism: He had inlaid a Bigsby logo into a 1960s maple endtable, sitting in the front of the store. He knew I owned a Bigsby (there's another Bobbe story right there) and told me "you didn't know Paul Bigsby made furniture, did you? You can have it, but it's not cheap." We stared at each other for a second. Then we broke out laughing.

The table is probably still there in the foyer of the shop.

[Jim Reynolds]

Damir, Thank you for the comments toward Bobbe. I had the pleasure of meeting him once, when the wife and I was on a motorcycle trip out there. He treated us like he'd known us all is life. We do come from around the same area. I have the a lot of respect for him and all he's done. I also hope to meet Damir someday, bought my Discovery through, and it was from Mickey Adams, Who I also admire. Just my two cents. I might mention Doug Ernst in this.

[Damir Besic]

Damir, Thank you for the comments toward Bobbe. I had the pleasure of meeting him once, when the wife and I was on a motorcycle trip out there. He treated us like he'd known us all is life. We do come from around the same area. I have the a lot of respect for him and all he's done. I also hope to meet Damir someday, bought my Discovery through, and it was from Mickey Adams, Who I also admire. Just my two cents. I might mention Doug Ernst in this.

yes bud, good bunch of guys right here... next time you come down this way maybe we can grab a lunch or something

[Damir Besic]

Just a personal comment about my friend Bobbe Seymour, whom I loved to hang with if only for entertainment purposes. And he always bought lunch.

But we all know that he had a BS side to him, I think it was part of his charm, some of the outrageous stuff I've seen, and the claims he made about who owned what and who did what and at what time. Truthful or exaggerated, or even total BS, the man had stories to tell.

My favorite Bobbe-ism: He had inlaid a Bigsby logo into a 1960s maple endtable, sitting in the front of the store. He knew I owned a Bigsby (there's another Bobbe story right there) and told me "you didn't know Paul Bigsby made furniture, did you? You can have it, but it's not cheap." We stared at each other for a second. Then we broke out laughing.

The table is probably still there in the foyer of the shop.

lol ...thats a good one... here is another one ... I was at Bobbes store one day playing, and talking about a Promat... some European gentleman walked in the store, I think he was from Germany or something... and he asked about the Promat ... Bobbe told him guitar was built with 30 year old maple, and high grade aircraft aluminum they pulled out of the US bomber which got shot down by the Serbian army... every so often while telling the story he would look at me over the guys shoulder, dead serious, and I was about to bust out laughing ... lol.. poor guy is probably still to this day telling that story at local German pubs lol ....

[Damir Besic]

and btw... I never did know that I was driving a bus for Ray Price, and we got stuck in the snow etc... until I did read the Bobbes news one time... where in the world, and how he got an idea I have no clue... but he did love to make up some BS stories ....sure did... thats what BS stands for after all, Bobbe Seymour... lmao

[Chris Lucker]

And of course there was the Bigsby he was peddling that was stamped "Bud Isaaics"

Bobbe said it was such an important guitar.

It took Bud Isaacs to clear that one up

[Chris Lucker]

But to most on this forum who were exposed to Bobbe selling "wraparounds" and Bigsbys, or Shelbys, his practices don't matter.
There are many other accounts. Carroll told me that Bobbe sold more Shelbys than were ever made. I thought that was telling. Funny guy that Bobbe. He even told me I was a great player.

[Bob Hoffnar]

I always liked those gold records he had made that were on the wall when you walked in.

His bs wasn't always benign though . He spread many hateful and destructive rumors about other steel players. I stopped doing business with him after he sold me some cable that was not suited for what he said. He had no problem lying and taking advantage of people even if it just meant a $5 sale.

He is still used by plenty of forum people as a reference. His legacy of complete bs lives on !

[Ken Pippus]

Never met Bobbe, but spoke on the phone a few times and bought a few things from him. He may have had many endearing traits. He didn't deal from the top of the deck.