Here Are Some Pics Of Emmons D-10 I Just Came Across Value?

Glen Sloan · Post by **Glen Sloan** » 8 Aug 2016 8:01 am

LET ME KNOW WHAT I HAVE I AM INTO GUITARS, BUT PEDAL STEEL GUITARS ARE NEW TO ME. THANKS i BELIEVE IT IS A 1979 D-10 LAQUER?

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Jack Goodson · Post by **Jack Goodson** » 8 Aug 2016 8:26 am

doe's it need a rebuild?....thanks jack

John Brock · Post by **John Brock** » 8 Aug 2016 9:32 am

Whats the number on it?

Glen Sloan · Post by **Glen Sloan** » 8 Aug 2016 9:45 am

1381 D

richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 8 Aug 2016 10:13 am

It's a push pull, and it doesn't look like it needs a rebuild to me, just tune it up (follow the instructions on the sticky at the top of this section) and see what happens.
If everything is still original, then it shouldn't be too far out of whack.

Skip Edwards · Post by **Skip Edwards** » 8 Aug 2016 11:20 am

1381D would be from the early '70's.
Nice gtr...got a front view pic?

Bill Lowe · Post by **Bill Lowe** » 8 Aug 2016 12:24 pm

Emmons D-10 Push-Pull Serial Numbers**
Year Starting # Ending #
1966 1024 1126
1967 1127 1205
1968 1206 1283
1969 1284 1337
1970 1338 1474
1971 1475 1588
1972 1589 1720
1973 1721 1825
1974 1826 2044
1975 2045 2204
1976 2205 2310
1977 2311 2416
1978 2417 2581
1979 2582 2767
1980 2768 2870
1981 2871 2948

Please Note: These serial numbers apply to D-10's only. After each number, the letter "D" is stamped. Great care has been taken to verify the accuracy of this information with various "Push-Pull Experts" around the U.S. However, we cannot guarantee the information given in the above chart is 100% accurate.

In the years 1964 and 1965, it appears that serial numbers were taken off of the sales invoice; and that these guitars were not consecutively numbered (as they may have used an invoice or 2 in between guitar sales for pickup sales or string sales, etc.)

Also, at a certain point, it is possible that the endplates were serialized ahead of guitar construction and put on a shelf, and then taken down and assembled into a guitar at a later date. Therefore, it is possible that some numbers may fall into one year earlier or later than shown on the chart.

Glen Sloan · Post by **Glen Sloan** » 8 Aug 2016 3:37 pm

Can you guys estimate it's value? And I am guessing it's a laquer finish from the checking.

Skip Edwards · Post by **Skip Edwards** » 8 Aug 2016 3:58 pm

Yeah, it's laq. As far as it's value, I'd suggest doing a search on the For Sale section of the Forum and see what they've sold for.
You might also ask Lynn Stafford, Billy Knowles, or Mike Cass.

Cartwright Thompson · Post by **Cartwright Thompson** » 9 Aug 2016 6:12 am

Interesting use of a turnbuckle

Bobby Boggs · Post by **Bobby Boggs** » 9 Aug 2016 6:42 am

If the tone control knob and fret boards are original? I'm guessing 68 or 69. Like the color scheme. Is it original?

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Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 9 Aug 2016 6:52 am

I'd say between $3000 and $3500. Can't tell too much about the finish, as it's so dusty and dirty, so that may affect the value. I've seen them go for more or less, it just depends on who's looking to buy at the time.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 9 Aug 2016 7:08 am

At some time in the past I'd say it was refinished. I've never seen a P/P Emmons with that style of finish.
Is there any inlay on the front?

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 9 Aug 2016 7:18 am

the only thing I would add is you cannot tell what it needs work wise from a photo , you need to literally be in front of it and evaluate it.

This SD10 looks awesome in the photo, but in reality it had a frozen changer (hardened grease) and was unplayable, it required a total rebuild , THEN it became a great player.

Jon Light (deceased) · Post by **Jon Light (deceased)** » 9 Aug 2016 7:20 am

Cartwright Thompson wrote:Interesting use of a turnbuckle

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Glen Sloan · Post by **Glen Sloan** » 9 Aug 2016 7:30 am

I will get better pics of it. I will sell it and know nothing about pedal steel guitars. And am getting info. I do believe the finish is original. I have an early picture of original owner John Rhoton playing this guitar in this finish. I understand you guys refinish them anyway. A real no no for other types of guitars. It also has seven knee levers with at least one I think where two work in tandem. I am in Central Illinois for anyone wanting to see it first hand.

Rich Upright · Post by **Rich Upright** » 9 Aug 2016 6:38 pm

I had a D-10 in almost the exact same finish, and have seen one of the Mandrell sisters playing one like that too, so I would think it's the original finish.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 10 Aug 2016 4:58 am

The turnbuckle is probably to keep the cabinet from bowing outwards in the center, which is why Emmons used the flat bar across their cabinets for years.

The turnbuckle gives me pause, however; the guitar has been "messed with" to some extent, obviously. Whether done "correctly" or not is not that clear from the photos.

It does has a lot of levers, but needs (IMHO

) a deep cleaning and lubrication, if not a complete tear-down and reassembly for it to be "worth" $3000 or over... to me, of course. But I've owned many Emmonses (still do) and I'm particular about condition. And I like working on them. YMMV.

I'd say this is an early 70's guitar.

Jon Light (deceased) · Post by **Jon Light (deceased)** » 10 Aug 2016 5:59 am

Jon Light wrote:It does raise some questions.

Herb Steiner wrote: The turnbuckle gives me pause, however; the guitar has been "messed with" to some extent, obviously. Whether done "correctly" or not is not that clear from the photos.

That's along the lines of the questions I was suggesting this raises. Was this to prevent bowing or to remedy it? (I think it unlikely that someone will mount this hardware 'just in case'). Is the hardware free & clear of moving parts?

It definitely calls for examination by a prospective buyer.

Henry Matthews · Post by **Henry Matthews** » 10 Aug 2016 6:07 am

As Herb said, this guitar has been lets say, messed with. Now whether it's been messed with good or bad, only a closer examination would determine that. The turn buckle worries me. Don't know if it was installed because it needed it or as just a precaution to keep the cabinet from spreading as in trying to reinvent the wheel. If it needed it, something is wrong. The cross flat bar across the cabinet works perfect so don't know why the turn buckle. I would be a little leery of putting a lot of money in this guitar on a purchase. Not much over 2 G.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 10 Aug 2016 7:07 am

Upon reflection of the last couple of posts, I'm almost certain the turnbuckle is there to remedy bowing that already has taken place, otherwise why go to the trouble to fix something that ain't broke?

I'm almost certain the turnbuckle isn't the factory recommended method of repair.

Henry Matthews · Post by **Henry Matthews** » 10 Aug 2016 7:17 am

Herb Steiner wrote: I'm almost certain the turnbuckle isn't the factory recommended method of repair.

That's what I meant Herb but you said it better

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 10 Aug 2016 7:19 am

I have the answer!
The turnbuckle is there to take care of cabinet drop.

Glen Sloan · Post by **Glen Sloan** » 11 Aug 2016 6:40 am

I dont have pics yet but did get a good look at the turnbuckle and it is there for bracing accross the guitar. It is attached to nothing else. Why it was done I dont know I see no bowing ect whatsoever.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 11 Aug 2016 8:53 am

Glen Sloan wrote:I dont have pics yet but did get a good look at the turnbuckle and it is there for bracing accross the guitar. It is attached to nothing else. Why it was done I dont know I see no bowing ect whatsoever.

That's prob'ly because there's that turnbuckle on there.

If the cabinet is now square, I wonder if putting two correct Emmons bracing bars across the front and back aprons would hold the thing enough that the turnbuckle could be removed. Since it's a fat back, it would use the straight brace bars. Easy.

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