my first build

Phillip Ogle · Post by **Phillip Ogle** » 24 Feb 2016 9:47 pm

Hi Forum members: a shot of my first build.
Wide s10 3&5 all pull tripple raise tripple lower. Will be blue sunburst with paua blue abalony inlay with natural top. Open to comments pro or con. Thanks Phil.

Paul Wade · Post by **Paul Wade** » 25 Feb 2016 7:32 am

Phillip,

nice looking steel. nice job. let see some more pic's

p.w

Jeff Heard · Post by **Jeff Heard** » 25 Feb 2016 8:06 am

Pretty guitar!

Ross Shafer · Post by **Ross Shafer** » 25 Feb 2016 9:41 am

Very nice, did you make the changer and all the other bits and pieces?

Sonny Jenkins · Post by **Sonny Jenkins** » 25 Feb 2016 10:29 am

That's gonna look GREAT,,,my question is,,,where did you get that tiger stripe maple,,,I NEED SOME!!!!!,,,

John Sluszny · Post by **John Sluszny** » 25 Feb 2016 10:31 am

Calvin Walley · Post by **Calvin Walley** » 25 Feb 2016 10:44 am

i have always wondered about something

where do the guys that build their own guitars get all the parts ?
things like changers, cross shafts , levers, pedals and such
seems that those kinda things would be things that most simply couldn't make at home

by the way ..beautiful guitar !!!

Ross Shafer · Post by **Ross Shafer** » 25 Feb 2016 10:45 am

Calvin Walley wrote:i have always wondered about something

where do the guys that build their own guitars get all the parts ?
things like changers, cross shafts , levers, pedals and such
seems that those kinda things would be things that most simply couldn't make at home

by the way ..beautiful guitar !!!

depends a lot on what tools one has at home.

Calvin Walley · Post by **Calvin Walley** » 25 Feb 2016 12:20 pm

Ross

what i was thinking is that most home shops are wood working mainly
and few i would think would have the specialty tools to do metal working
my older brother was a machinist and thus had a machine shop ,
but few people i know would have the ability to produce many of the parts at home

Phillip Ogle · Post by **Phillip Ogle** » 25 Feb 2016 1:58 pm

Hi Guys, l'm going to try to answer all the questions with one post. First off, thanks for the kind remarks, from all of you. I will attempt to put more pics on. My tablet often double or tripple posts. Yes l make all my parts, with a few crude tools. I get my 60/61 aluminum from a local auto carpet mfgr. They let me brouse thru their scrap bins. They have a machine shop where they make the alum. Molds for their carpet molders. The maple comes from a local lumber retailer. If you need some, l can get it most anytime. One part l don't make is the key head, too much time involved. Here goes, l'll try to post multiple shots.

Phillip Ogle · Post by **Phillip Ogle** » 25 Feb 2016 2:02 pm

Sorry, l goofed

Phillip Ogle · Post by **Phillip Ogle** » 25 Feb 2016 2:04 pm

one more

Phillip Ogle · Post by **Phillip Ogle** » 25 Feb 2016 2:07 pm

Last one.

Ian Rae · Post by **Ian Rae** » 25 Feb 2016 2:07 pm

Calvin, I built this guitar

using just typical hand tools, a drill press and a belt sander. No lathe or milling machine, but a good set of taps and dies and quite a lot of time. I started by making the hardest bit first

and figured that if I could make a changer finger the rest should be possible too. The only part I bought was the pickup. Of course I have the unfair advantage that I'm retired and reasonably good with my hands. My design avoided any woodwork - I'm lousy at that

Phillip Ogle · Post by **Phillip Ogle** » 25 Feb 2016 2:18 pm

Last one.

Ian Rae · Post by **Ian Rae** » 25 Feb 2016 2:21 pm

Sorry, I ignored the OP - that's very handsome, Phillip.

Stephen Williams · Post by **Stephen Williams** » 25 Feb 2016 2:34 pm

Very Nice! Is that an all-pull changer?

My next build will be using as much re-purposed material as i can i.e. Mass produced parts that are cheap and can be used in a PSG. I will document it.

Fingers will be weld tabs, end plates are C-channels ( you can buy custom lengths) etc etc

Phillip Ogle · Post by **Phillip Ogle** » 25 Feb 2016 2:54 pm

Yes Steven, it indeed is an all pull changer. Tripple raise and lower. The best part is you only need very thin teflon washers, no spacers at all. Works better than butter.

Phillip Ogle · Post by **Phillip Ogle** » 25 Feb 2016 3:28 pm

me again. when l stated that l make all my parts except key head..... One small correction. Obviously you cant cut out the fingers with crude tools. The changer fingers were cnc machined (fingers only) this is only the beginning. You have to make a jig to drill pull rod holes, and pivot pin, "not rivetts" if any wants to try your luck building one, l introduced the first changer built to Jimmy Hudson. He has several sets of fingers made. One more thing. You have to drill and install string pins...lotta work.

Ian Rae · Post by **Ian Rae** » 25 Feb 2016 4:21 pm

Phillip - I have two questions. (i) What string spacing are you working to? (ii) What tuning nuts do you plan to use?

Calvin Walley · Post by **Calvin Walley** » 25 Feb 2016 4:56 pm

Philip

you did some amazing work using the tools you had to work with

i have seem my older brother make a lot of things like that , but he had a fully equipped machine shop

i really didn't think it was possible with just hand tools ...again great job and a beautiful guitar !!!

J R Rose · Post by **J R Rose** » 25 Feb 2016 5:42 pm

Yes folks, Phillip is doing some nice work. I have been privileged to get to see these pictures and more.
Maybe he will share some more soon, you will be impressed. On top of everything else we have done some business together and he his a fine gentleman and a man of his word. Best of luck Phillip, J.R. Rose

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 25 Feb 2016 6:20 pm

pretty and professional looking.

Larry Bressington · Post by **Larry Bressington** » 25 Feb 2016 7:24 pm

Wowza, fantastic work in every aspect, stellar stuff Phillip.

Phillip Ogle · Post by **Phillip Ogle** » 26 Feb 2016 6:01 am

thans guys: l am very flattered by your kind words and compliments. The best tools you have are within yourself( patience, determination, and what drives you,and encouragement fom fine folkslike you. Ian, to answer our qustion, my string spacing is3/8" tuning nus are made from /16" hex stock, but extremely tough t get holes centered. I usually mess up 3 out of 5 lol. My brass rollers are made from old style knurrled lamp switches from hardware store. You ave to thead them onto a 6/32" x 1" cap screw using jam nuts to secure. Put head end into drill press on med. speed holding a file against switch and using calipers to turn to desired diameter, which is very tedious. Here is a pic. of finishd set along with my home made bell crank, made on msa style, using only drill press, band saw, andtable saw to cut slot for pull rod topassthru.

Ps PaulWade bought on of my vert. Knee kits hope its working well Paul. And thanks to my true friend JR Rose