Emmons Little Buddy at Gruhn's for $750

Andy Volk · Post by **Andy Volk** » 1 Nov 2004 3:18 am

FYI ... I noticed Gruhn Guitars has an Emmons "Little Buddy" pedal steel listed on their site right now for $750. Comes with three pedals and one knee. I don't know how expandable this rig is but maybe a good cheap starter guitar for a beginner?
http://www.gruhn.com/

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 1 Nov 2004 5:16 am

for approx. the same price, one can get a Carter Starter
which will be way ahead of the Little Buddy
JMO

David Mullis · Post by **David Mullis** » 1 Nov 2004 5:22 am

IMHO that's overpriced for a Little Buddy.

Daniel J. Cormier · Post by **Daniel J. Cormier** » 1 Nov 2004 6:36 am

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the Little Buddy line of guitars were built by the Emmons Steel Guitar Co.I agree with David about it being over priced.I see them allthe time going for around 500.00 on ebay, and we all know how stupid pricing is there.As Crowbear stated Carter starter would be a much better buy.
Just My 2 cents worth

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johnnyb · Post by **johnnyb** » 1 Nov 2004 6:36 am

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Andy Volk · Post by **Andy Volk** » 1 Nov 2004 6:39 am

Thanks for the education, guys. I didn't know anything about these guitars.As usual, Gruhn's prices are higher.

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 1 Nov 2004 7:09 am

Overpriced.

Tom Callahan · Post by **Tom Callahan** » 1 Nov 2004 7:16 am

For what it is worth, that guitar is an exact match of a upgraded student model I have at home.

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Daniel J. Cormier · Post by **Daniel J. Cormier** » 1 Nov 2004 8:25 am

It's a Emonns Student Model Guitar. Should sell for about 450.00 to 550.00 depending on the condition.

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Daniel J. Cormier · Post by **Daniel J. Cormier** » 1 Nov 2004 8:48 am

A little history on the Little Buudy. Guitars were built by Freeman Cowgar.

Sadly Freeman is no longer with us, but he never received the credit he deserved as a Mfg and promoter of Steels. His guitars were affordable. Prior to the COUGAR he built the LITTLE BUDDY.I bought all the remaining stock after Freemans death so that I may be able to help anyone that may have an old Freeman guitar. Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works.

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Daniel J. Cormier
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http://www.cajunsteelguitar.com email at djcormier@cox-internet.com

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 1 Nov 2004 11:58 am

That's an Emmons student model, overpriced at $750 but not as overpriced as a real Little Buddy would be at $750.

Surprisingly, or not so, some of those Emmons student jobs sounded pretty darn good. They were PP's, after all.

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Peter · Post by **Peter** » 1 Nov 2004 12:13 pm

Beware of Gruhn Guitars.
If this guitar has been mistreated or damaged, they will not be able to tell.
If you complain, they will claim that they know NOTHING about steel guitars.
If you complain on the forum, they will ignore it because they consider the forum to be "unregulated".

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1975 Fender Artist S10; Remington U12; 1947 Gibson BR4;
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Tom Callahan · Post by **Tom Callahan** » 1 Nov 2004 12:34 pm

If memory serves me correct they just picked this one up off e-bay a few weeks ago. I seem to remember it being on there.

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HowardR · Post by **HowardR** » 1 Nov 2004 1:43 pm

Hmmm, all this seems a Little Cruddy to me!

Daniel J. Cormier · Post by **Daniel J. Cormier** » 1 Nov 2004 2:23 pm

Herb is right about the sound . Sounds like a Push Pull Emmons S-10.It's just not as finished and pretty.Played one on a couple of songs for a Gosple recording. Sounded great and played well after I got her tuned up.Just didn't care for the Aluminum legs.

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MCI D-10 , Peavey Sessions 500 & 400 Limited ,Nashville 400
http://www.cajunsteelguitar.com email at djcormier@cox-internet.com

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 1 Nov 2004 2:32 pm

Not a classified ad - moved to the "Pedal Steel" section of the Forum.

Rand Anderson · Post by **Rand Anderson** » 1 Nov 2004 2:32 pm

if you want a student model push pull there is one on ebay for 675$
much better than the little cruddy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2384&item=3758957784&rd=1

Jim Phelps · Post by **Jim Phelps** » 1 Nov 2004 6:03 pm

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David Mullis · Post by **David Mullis** » 2 Nov 2004 5:57 am

I agree with Herb, these guitars sound really good. I started out on one of these, then spent several years trying to find that sound in an all pull before finally comming back to a push pull. $450 sounds more in line with what I paid for the one I had 11 years ago.

seldomfed · Post by **seldomfed** » 2 Nov 2004 11:14 am

I had one about 10 years ago.
$200 in a pawn shop.
Sold it for $400 in '98
Tone was excellent.
$750 is a big rip.

I got a Sho-Bud Maverick for $400 last xmas just to have a student guitar around for folks to borrow - tone is also excellent. But the pawn shop wanted like $700 for it to start -

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Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 5 Nov 2004 8:42 am

My advice would be to always buy a pedal steel from someone who knows pedal steels. I realize that's simplistic, but doing otherwise is kinda like buying your dinner at a hardware store. Also, if you know nothing about steels, know and trust who you're dealing with. The world is full of people who will sell you a $450 guitar for $750-$1,000 and not bat an eye.

A happy consumer is an informed consumer.

Nicholas Dedring · Post by **Nicholas Dedring** » 8 Nov 2004 6:20 am

Call me crazy, but the prices for the other steels (non-pedal) seem pretty crazy as well... is $1500 for a Single 6 Fender princeton reasonable? I'm not saying it is necessarily crazy, but it does seem steep, no?