Is Jazz music nearly dead?

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 1 Oct 2015 9:17 am

Plus he has a pretty strong reputation as a classical artist as well.

Quentin Hickey · Post by **Quentin Hickey** » 1 Oct 2015 9:35 am

Can someone please giveme a definition of "jazz" music??

Tracy Sheehan · Post by **Tracy Sheehan** » 1 Oct 2015 10:06 am

Quentin Hickey wrote:Can someone please giveme a definition of "jazz" music??

I was told years ago by A guitar player on a top tv show at the time that jazz can be any song only not playing the melody.

When I was a kid learning fiddle when we didn't play the melody every one called it hokem. We even called a jazz tune hokem. Tracy

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 1 Oct 2015 10:15 am

“If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know.”
― Louis Armstrong

“it ain't as hard as picking cotton”
― Wynton Marsalis

Quentin Hickey · Post by **Quentin Hickey** » 1 Oct 2015 10:18 am

Sometimes the scenery is much better on old roads rather than the interstate.

Bob Watson · Post by **Bob Watson** » 1 Oct 2015 11:45 pm

Quentin, here ya go... http://www.allaboutjazz.com/yogi-berra- ... -staff.php

Stefan Robertson · Post by **Stefan Robertson** » 2 Oct 2015 8:47 am

Wow this discussion has some awesome conversation and has taken a few different directions.

I asked my peers and my bro in law and his friends to name a few Jazz artists they like and other than names that they saw on a t shirt or record store in London. Most struggle to even come up with 5.

However there is a huge amount of DJ's that sample jazz music and use musicians hard work all the time and that group tend to know more about Jazz. Especially if they steal a lot. Example Many hip hop, broken beat, Afro jazz DJ's know and listen to music from loads of Jazz artists. One can possibly even say it's through their new application a whole new audience is introduced to Jazz. Only problem is if they don't credit the source the audience will never know. Thus to an extent remain largely uneducated.

Mike Neer · Post by **Mike Neer** » 2 Oct 2015 9:13 am

I really like the sampling, being into artists like Kid Koala and Mr. Scruff, Amon Tobin, etc. There are a few hiphop artists who have really succeeded in this, especially Guru with Jazzmatazz and also Aceyalone, and many others. I frequently hear the sampled parts when I'm listening to old Bebop records, but a lot of the 60s Jazz was sampled, too.

Stefan Robertson · Post by **Stefan Robertson** » 2 Oct 2015 10:56 am

Yeah there are some great DJ's who credit Jazz artists but in Europe majority don't. And those that do it's hard to find.

Just as a point towards educating the masses about Jazz.

So this also affects the awareness and prevalence still of Jazz music even in clubs.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 3 Oct 2015 9:24 am

I see jazz simply as what you get when you (finally) go beyond ordinary music.

However, it seems most players and listeners never travel that far.

Wayne Carver · Post by **Wayne Carver** » 3 Oct 2015 6:16 pm

Donny Hinson wrote:I see jazz simply as what you get when you (finally) go beyond ordinary music. However, it seems most players and listeners never travel that far.

That's the way I see Jazz although ordinary music is wonderful too. I've heard Jazz as if one is playing his instrument and floating down a river. The player or singer has to get out of the river but also has to know when it's time to get back in.

(Example)
Stephane Grappelli meets Earl Hines;

https://youtu.be/7c2ZiMfibWk

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 5 Oct 2015 9:19 am

Time for some levity..

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 10 Oct 2015 2:00 pm

Hopefully yes...

Les Cargill · Post by **Les Cargill** » 10 Oct 2015 2:32 pm

The inimitable Yogi Berra ( RIP ) on jazz:
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/yogi-berra- ... -staff.php

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 10 Oct 2015 8:30 pm

Well, as long as we're quoting celebrities...

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 11 Oct 2015 3:45 am

"I don't have a definition of Jazz. You're just supposed to know it when you hear it."
--Thelonious Monk

I think Yogi Berra has the right take on jazz, but I clearly don't understand it.

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 11 Oct 2015 3:19 pm

Oh I understand it. That's why I can't stand it. Dry, boring head music for guys with bad breath and even worse clothes. Maybe 50 years ago it was cool in an out-of-style way, but today? Yech...

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 11 Oct 2015 5:21 pm

Well I guess that settles it then,Tom. Jazz is dead..

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 11 Oct 2015 7:32 pm

Barry Blackwood wrote:Well I guess that settles it then,Tom. Jazz is dead..

-LLL- ;- )

Dustin Rhodes · Post by **Dustin Rhodes** » 12 Oct 2015 5:19 am

Tom Quinn wrote:Oh I understand it. ...

I think this is where your post goes off the rails.

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 12 Oct 2015 5:28 am

Well, let's have the funeral and play Dixieland.

Dave Little · Post by **Dave Little** » 12 Oct 2015 8:16 am

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 12 Oct 2015 5:09 pm

I dunno Dustin, I was a music teacher for years and have a pretty firm grasp of theory as well as what gets you a free drink and a smooch in a honky tonk. (hint: it ain't jazz) -LLL-

Quentin Hickey · Post by **Quentin Hickey** » 13 Oct 2015 3:33 am

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 13 Oct 2015 4:22 am

Had a humor bypass somewhere down the line Hickey?

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