Why the hate for Nashville 112s?

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Buddy always got a Hell of a HONK out of his 112 didn't he..
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Without trying to get called crotchety like the first time I posted I agree with George. If I have to rebuild it after spending good money on it why have it? Every Peavey steel amp I can remember has had to have some kind of mod to make it usable. I have had Nashville 400's, Session 400's,Session 500's,Vegas,and LTDs. They all sounded grainy to me. Me and them don't get along for steel guitar.
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Fred Rushing wrote:Buddy always got a Hell of a HONK out of his 112 didn't he..
That's because he is a 'honky'.

Sorry... Could't resist.
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I have several amps, including a stock Peavey Nashville 112 and a hotrodded Nashville 112. Both Nashville 112s sound great with very little difference between the two.
The Nashville 112 is my most used amp these days. Pound for pound a real work horse and hard to beat. I've been playing Peavey amps since the early 1970s and I'm still a Peavey fan.
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I find mine to be very workable. I think many times we overlook that the guitar itself can be the "link" to tones we are not particularly in love with. My 112 sounds pretty good with my two older Sho Buds but not quite as good with my Emmons PP. And the reverse, I use a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe on small gigs,( Deville on larger gigs) the Sho Buds are just too shrill while the Emmons PP dials in just fine.

Maybe it's not the amp ? We got an amp, a speaker, a different axe, different pups and maybe strings that are yelling at us ? Maybe one shoe is not suppose to fit every scenario ...
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Without trying to get called crotchety like the first time I posted I agree with George. If I have to rebuild it after spending good money on it why have it? Every Peavey steel amp I can remember has had to have some kind of mod to make it usable. I have had Nashville 400's, Session 400's,Session 500's,Vegas,and LTDs. They all sounded grainy to me. Me and them don't get along for steel guitar.
None of the Peavey's, except some Nashville 400's "need" a mod. That is the mindset many have. The amps are perfectly fine without any "mod". I laugh everytime I see a posting about a Peavey amp "must" be modded.
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For those of you who are baffled by the mid/shift equalization circuit on the Nashville 112 and 400, maybe this explanation will help;
http://peavey.com/media/pdf/steelguitar ... ircuit.pdf
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Tommy White wrote:I have several amps, including a stock Peavey Nashville 112 and a hotrodded Nashville 112. Both Nashville 112s sound great with very little difference between the two.
The Nashville 112 is my most used amp these days. Pound for pound a real work horse and hard to beat. I've been playing Peavey amps since the early 1970s and I'm still a Peavey fan.
I've never had a 112, but I have a early '80's NV400, a late 90's NV1000, and an early 70's Session 400.
All un-moded, stock speakers, reverb tanks...all have been the most road-worthy, dependable amps ever.
And...they all sound great.
Did I mention that Peavey's service dept is the best?
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Thanks for the compliments and support Chris!
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Tommy White wrote:I have several amps, including a stock Peavey Nashville 112 and a hotrodded Nashville 112. Both Nashville 112s sound great with very little difference between the two.
The Nashville 112 is my most used amp these days. Pound for pound a real work horse and hard to beat. I've been playing Peavey amps since the early 1970s and I'm still a Peavey fan.
Hi Tommy. I assume you still use the Webb on the Opry. Right? I am also a devoted Peavey fan. I've been through several amps, including a Web combo (Bradshaw era) and a head through a custom made cabinet with a JBL K-130. They all sound great, but I keep going back to my NV 400.

I have no experience with the 112 so I comment with an opinion, but I saw Terry Bethel use 2 when I saw him will Tillis a few years ago. He sounded great. He also used a Bethel guitar.
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Mike Brown wrote:For those of you who are baffled by the mid/shift equalization circuit on the Nashville 112 and 400, maybe this explanation will help;
http://peavey.com/media/pdf/steelguitar ... ircuit.pdf
I understand how it works, but the frequency numbers don't correlate to tone in my mind. What is the most common mid shift frequency for steel guitars?
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Mike, I have asked on several threads about the supply of Peavey Steel Amps and their repair for UK/Euro players since the closure of the Peavey Depot in UK, but apparently you are unable to answer for whatever reason. I know of at least one player who was looking to buy 112, but was unable to get new one in UK.Perhaps you could enlighten us as to what Peavey plan ( or not plan) for us over here.Thanks.
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b0b, years ago (may have been when the Session 500 was the active product) at one of the ISGC's Peavey had an informal seminar on the Paramid and they said 800Hz was the frequency to cut.

I've set mine to 800Hz. I've tried others but 800Hz seems to be the one, at least for me.

Another note. I've had Peavey's with the Paramid controls starting with the Session 500, Nashville 400, Nashville 1000 and Nashville 112. I've used the same EQ settings on all of those amps.
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Post by Lynn Kasdorf »

Another plus vote for the NV112! It is my goto amp. I own a Session 500, Nashville 400, Vegas 400.

ALL of the other Peaveys I own have developed the dreaded intermittent where it get real quiet, and then percussive maintenance (a good whack on the cabinet) sometimes brings it back. I like the sound of the other Peaveys that I have but I don't trust them until I get them on the bench and doctor all the damn molex connectors. Even then, I'll bring the MB200 as a spare amp.

The NV112 has never given me a moments trouble and I've been playing it since 2006 (I bought it used at that time).

When turned up loud, I even enjoy the growl that it provides.

I have an MB200 and I sometimes use that with a 15 black widow in a homebrew cabinet. This is a good setup, but I think the NV112 will run louder, and I don't have to mess with an outboard reverb.
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Jack Stoner wrote:I laugh everytime I see a posting about a Peavey amp "must" be modded.
Well, perhaps their hearing is more sensitive. :|
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Jack Stoner wrote:b0b, years ago (may have been when the Session 500 was the active product) at one of the ISGC's Peavey had an informal seminar on the Paramid and they said 800Hz was the frequency to cut.

I've set mine to 800Hz. I've tried others but 800Hz seems to be the one, at least for me.
Just checked. Mine is set to 800Hz, too.

Does anyone set it to 440 Hz, so that the amp will be in tune with their steel? ;-) :lol:
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I use less MIDS, the mid knob is at -9 while the shift is more at 400 or 500 somewhere around there.
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Mid/Shift

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There are no "hard and fast" settings for these controls as it is all subjective.
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Mike Brown wrote:There are no "hard and fast" settings for these controls as it is all subjective.
Yep, depends on the instrument, the room, the humidity, mood of the player, phase of the moon, etc.
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800 or bust!
I need an Emmons!
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For some reason my mid shift sounds best to me around 500....maybe my hearing is already attenuated at 800 hz
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Tommy White wrote:I have several amps, including a stock Peavey Nashville 112 and a hotrodded Nashville 112. Both Nashville 112s sound great with very little difference between the two.
The Nashville 112 is my most used amp these days. Pound for pound a real work horse and hard to beat. I've been playing Peavey amps since the early 1970s and I'm still a Peavey fan.
Tommy, not trying to start anything here, but I thought you had a dislike for Opry's Peaveys and used a Webb.
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It's great for its intended purpose. I had one go out on me once on a job. Nobody on the bandstand could believe a peavy amp stopped working. I sent it to Peavey. It was out of warranty. They fixed it for free, replaced a bent pot that I didn't ask to have replaced, and sent it back at their expense. All in less than a week. Amazing service when you consider the price point.

Another cool thing about the 112 , the amp is exactly the width of a rack mount processor. I put a rack on top of the reverb pan, knobs facing out the back, and ran right angle George Ls through the space between the amp and baffle board into the back of the rack. I relocated the back panel a few inches higher on the back of the cab. Big lush reverb with delay, all throw and go. That was cool.
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Thanks to all for the opinions and information, it prompted me to further experiment in order to find a more satisfying mix to my ears. I had been using a recommended setting and almost felt guilty if I tweaked a knob or two, like I was moving away from optimal. Now I know better. The 112 is really a sweet amp for my purposes and with a Black Box it sounds great. BTW, a few years ago I played an outdoor gig and plugged into a Bandit 112 that was on the stage. Watching the video later I thought the Bandit sounded pretty good.
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Post by Tommy White »

Bill,
When I began my tenure at the Grand Ole Opry the amps in place were very old, some had mismatched speakers and had become microphonic as well. I was also an endorser for Webb amps at the time so, it only made sense to put a new Webb in place.
The Webb amp on the Opry stage has peformed flawlessly as did the Peaveys for many years. The Webb rig is now 15 or so years old, survived the flood and still works fine but is sounding very tired. Policy and management changes in recent years have made it not my responsibility to supply or replace the steel guitar amp rig on the Opry stage. So there you have it😊
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