For Tinnitus sufferers

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 3 Mar 2015 1:27 pm

I'm skeptical, but check it out;
http://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/lip ... r-not.333/

Walter Glockler · Post by **Walter Glockler** » 3 Mar 2015 2:17 pm

I took the initial dose for the recommended period of time and it didn't do anything except costing money.

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 3 Mar 2015 2:42 pm

Yeah Walter!
That's the impression I got from reading about the "treatment."

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 3 Mar 2015 3:28 pm

if you have more ideas i'd like to hear them. i have screaming tinnitus.

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 3 Mar 2015 3:29 pm

I took the initial dose for the recommended period of time and it didn't do anything except costing money.

Snake oil. That stuff's been around quite awhile...

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 3 Mar 2015 3:33 pm

if you have more ideas i'd like to hear them.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond ... n-20021487

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 3 Mar 2015 3:33 pm

Yeah Barry,
That's my impression too, Expensive snake oil.

Ray Montee (RIP) · Post by **Ray Montee (RIP)** » 3 Mar 2015 3:42 pm

Have you ever had your physician 'flush your inner ear' with water or medication of some sort?

I was astounded in what came out of my ear and how much better I could hear. Oh, the ringing in the ear ceased.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 3 Mar 2015 3:52 pm

I'm skeptical too! Fifty years of pyrotechnics, shooting, and playing music have all contributed to my woes. But I figure that if anything would help, my doc would know about it. He terms this, along with most of those whoopie-wow supplements as "wasting your money on undocumented claims".

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 3 Mar 2015 3:57 pm

No Ray,,,and my Sister is bugging me to do it. Sometimes I have fluid (very thin wax?) flowing from my left ear. Not a lot,,,, but not normal.
As far as actual loss? The hearing tests I've taken do not use tones louder than the Tinnitus, so I can't hear them!
Case in point; There's a local ad, done by a stunner of a gal, and a good singer, but I contend her final note is flat. Now two of my friends, a world-reknown 6-stringer and an equally re-knowned steeler, said my hearing was so bad that I just wasn't right. They had to speak loudly to me. Well the 6-stringer owns a wonderful studio, so I challenged him to prove this gal was on key. I made him isolate a keyboard, and cue his tuner to it, then check the gal's last note. She was 3 cents flat. I knew it, and they couldn't tell! Bwaaaa!

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 3 Mar 2015 4:05 pm

i'm curious about thay ray. do you know anything about how they do that? i've got some kind of buildup in, i think, my middle ear. and i don't know how they'd get to that.

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 3 Mar 2015 4:08 pm

I remember my Sister, at about age 3, getting her ears flushed out at the doc's office. Quite surprising how much gunk came out. She screamed her brains out the who;e time! 8^)

Ray Montee (RIP) · Post by **Ray Montee (RIP)** » 3 Mar 2015 4:10 pm

The doctor used warm water......and shot it into my ear with those red rubber 'thingies' kids used to squirt water on each other with.

It's not a hard application into the ear but a firm squirt none-the-less.

I'd suggest you have your doctor do it the first time. It's surprising how much wax can accumulate in the inner ear. There was no pain or discomfort just a weird sensation to begin with.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU!

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 3 Mar 2015 4:17 pm

Thanks Ray! I'm gonna do it!

Butch Mullen · Post by **Butch Mullen** » 3 Mar 2015 4:33 pm

I have used the little rubber thingies to squirt hydrogen peroxide in my ear while laying on my side then flush with warm water. Helped with mild tinnitus and mild infection. I'm not telling you to do this, just telling you what I done. Butch in NC

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 3 Mar 2015 4:42 pm

Butch,
I tried that approach, didn't help. My band wasn't that loud, but on small stages, I always had a ride cymbal in one ear or the other. Plus I was a shooter. For skeet and trap, I wore protection, but for hunting? I needed my ears. I hung with Zappa, and he was very loud. My ears would ring for a few days after being with onstage passes. Really loud band!

Dustin Rhodes · Post by **Dustin Rhodes** » 3 Mar 2015 4:47 pm

My mom has menieres disease and the lipoflavinoids have almost gotten rid of the ringing she had.

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 3 Mar 2015 4:52 pm

Ah Dusty!
So did my Father! Maybe that's part of my problem?

John Booth · Post by **John Booth** » 3 Mar 2015 5:37 pm

I played loud rock-n-roll for 30 years and worked with jet aircraft, also like my guns. My tinnitis is maddening.
I've tried every da#n thing including hearing aids with masking sounds, lipoflavinoids, nothing helps.
If they ever come up with a fix i'm in even if I'm 99 years old.

Stephen Cowell · Post by **Stephen Cowell** » 3 Mar 2015 6:13 pm

I've noticed that when my triglycerides are up mine gets worse... but it's normally cicadas all the time anyway. I can see lowering your cholesterol helping, but not that much.

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 3 Mar 2015 10:33 pm

Lipoflavonoid did nothing for me either. My ENT told me I needed hearing aids and they have helped a lot. I bought a membership and got them at Costco.

They have helped a lot by increasing the sound, especially the higher frequencies, enough to drown out the background ringing. It still comes back when I take them out at night, but at least my days are much more tolerable.

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 4 Mar 2015 5:29 am

I actually just keep my ears open all the time.
On my way back from the frozen north, I stopped in at my old boss, the great man--my old handler in the spy game--
I told him I managed to escape with my hearing. I'm sure he didn't have any idea what I was talking about,
having just gotten new hi-tech hearning aids--really, with little RF antennas sticking out the ear-- from the VA,
for his hitch of 50 missions as a navigator in the big war. He makes up for it, at 95, by being as attentive as he ever was.
Imagine how attentive to be a wwii navigator and then a world famous geneticist. His mind hadn't changed, but his ears suffered damage early on.

But what great stories, running into Eleanor Roosevelt, before Theodore, and again after,
and actually meeting the twins Ima Hogg and Ura Hogg while training in Texas,
when there was the increased auditory bombardment during training.

I listened to his stories, he listened to mine, but his were better. 'Take care of yourself,'
he told me at the train, meaning he was still taking care of himself.

I'd say listen like you're deaf. I do, and my tinnitus continues to diminish, by letting it happen.

Dustin Rhodes · Post by **Dustin Rhodes** » 4 Mar 2015 8:08 am

Just to piggyback on the comment I made about my mom's success with getting rid of her ringing. I think the lipoflavinoids are more successful with ringing caused by fluid build up because they supposedly increase circulation in the inner ear. Ringing caused by damage (noise) isn't the same.

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 4 Mar 2015 9:33 am

I think we should agree on something before we go any further. When you flush the wax out of your ear you are only cleaning the ear canal up to the eardrum. The middle and inner ear lies behind the eardrum and to the best of my knowledge no wax collects here. See the link for further information.
http://www.earq.com/hearing-loss/ear-anatomy

Charley Adair · Post by **Charley Adair** » 5 Mar 2015 7:19 pm

I draw a small disability from the VA for tinitis. My understanding from doctors is that there is no cure. I have hearing aids which masks it pretty well and helps me hear high pitches and understand people with high pitched voices.

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