MSA Millennuim

Dean Schrock · Post by **Dean Schrock** » 9 Jan 2004 3:11 pm

Please help me justify spending the extra money for a Millennuim, I am losing control and have just about conviced myself that I need this guitar even though I could buy two regular guitars for the price of the Millennuim. With tax refund time comming I am getting ready to make the big leap and buy anyone think it is bad mistake. We all buy things we could do without.

jerry wallace · Post by **jerry wallace** » 9 Jan 2004 3:24 pm

Dean, "you only live once" and "you cant take it with you"..

Go for it.

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David Mullis · Post by **David Mullis** » 9 Jan 2004 3:48 pm

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Gordon Borland · Post by **Gordon Borland** » 9 Jan 2004 4:20 pm

If I could I would. I play a 1974 MSA and would get the new one except I still have kids in college. If I had the money I would not need a push. Reece would have it in the bank.

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Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 9 Jan 2004 4:41 pm

What guitar are you playing now?

Have you tried a Millennium yet?

I'd do that if possible. It is a very fine guitar, but like any new guitar, you'll lose money if you decide you don't like it in a few months, and decide to sell/trade it. If you plan on keeping it a good while, the difference in prices really isn't terribly significant. (Most top-of-the-line guitars are now over $3,000.)

Let's say one guitar is $6,000, and another guitar is $3,500. That $2,500 sounds like a big difference! If you spread the cost difference over 7 years, however, the one that was $6,000 has cost you less than $1.00 a day more.

Jack Dougherty · Post by **Jack Dougherty** » 9 Jan 2004 5:20 pm

I have had the pleasure of going to the factory. First. do not try and compare a wood guitar to a composite. This is not what MSA is trying to do. Their concept is to move to a new area in the design of steel guitars. This is space age stuff. Stuff the shuttle is made from and the use of titanium for light weight construction. But as far as we know, space age or not .there is no sound in space. So how do we know how the guitar sounds on terra firma. I've heard it. I've played on it . And was in the presence of Johnny Cox when he played on it. But Johnny has sounded great on most every thing he has played. And, he is still a fan of Zum(WOOD GUITAR) So the question should be do I want to drive to the store in a Corvet or a Viper? Both will do the job but what will you look good in.......

PS: The quick change pickup feature is a gas!!![This message was edited by Jack Dougherty on 09 January 2004 at 05:43 PM.]

Paul Warnik · Post by **Paul Warnik** » 9 Jan 2004 5:30 pm

Dean S-The only one who really needs to justify the purchase is YOU-I know you can buy two other steels for the price of the Millenium-but don't let that be a reason for "buyer's remorse" For me the Millenium was a "no-brainer" I had sold off half my guitar collection and just wanted the newest and most state of the art pedal steel available-MSA-if you play one-you will most likely be sold on it-the question is which pickups? I like mine with the E-66 George L-Pee Wee Whitewing told me the other day he likes his with the 10-1 George L-and lots of guys are talking about the Tru-Tones these days-decisions decisions[This message was edited by PAUL WARNIK on 09 January 2004 at 06:40 PM.]

Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 9 Jan 2004 6:14 pm

I got an email from Reece and MSA the other day offering a discount on buying one of those things. If you are serious about getting one, you might contact them and put in an order and see what kind of deal you can get.

Jeff A. Smith · Post by **Jeff A. Smith** » 9 Jan 2004 7:18 pm

I also got that e-mail from Reece. To clarify (hopefully) what Bill said:

The discount is (at least in this e-mail) being offered to present (and past, I think) owners of MSA guitars. Whether that is the actual boundary of who can get the discount, I don't know.

The discount is apparently being offered because MSA thinks that committing to the manufacture of a certain quantity of guitars will allow it to make out alright after a dramatic price reduction; dramatic as in $1,000 off the price of a D-10 or U-12.

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 9 Jan 2004 7:41 pm

**** HUMOR ALERT/ DISCLAIMER ******

Hmmm... I'd sell my Red Baron to somebody for 4 bills and they could presumably stick the difference in their pockets.

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Seriously I'd go somewhere that you could try the largest number of different steels, and tell the salesman to leave you the hell alone while you played each and every one, then thank him, go out and get drunk, and think about it.

From what I see, three should be someone within "our community" in Ohio with one you could try, or take the time to go a little farther out of your way and do it.

I lucked out with my ProIII and found "the guitar" that was meant for me. Many similar Sho Buds, wouldn't fit me at all, I'm sure.

Maybe the "stars" were right.

Sometimes they aren't, I'm sure..

EJL[This message was edited by Eric West on 09 January 2004 at 07:43 PM.]

Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 9 Jan 2004 8:09 pm

About ten minutes playing a Millenium convinced me.
I had the chance to play a new SU12, and compare it to a very fine but older MSA SU12, for several hours. Same tuning, same pedals.
The MSA Millenium was simply very easy to play. Minimal bar pressure, easy pedal movement,stays in tune, quiet as a mouse, perfect intonation.
I have had mine for 8 months or so, and it continues to amaze me. Glad I bought it.

Ron

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 10 Jan 2004 11:17 am

I tried one at ISGC and was blow away with the easy of everything, and this was an E9 and I prefer C6.

The sound was great to my ears and mechanically it is top notch.
And it's light.

If my ship comes in this winter I will most likely go for a really tricked out Bb6 as a jazz blues monster machine.

Then if you look at the list of very happy customers; including both Johnny AND Joan Cox, you say to yourself. It must be fine if they bought TWO!!
I heard them play both and it was tone to the bone.

Rick Schmidt · Post by **Rick Schmidt** » 10 Jan 2004 11:48 am

Not having heard or even seen one, my opinion is this...

I'm sure they don't sound exactly like a wood guitar,(for me, I'll never get rid of my old ShoBud) but if you know how to pull tone out of a steel guitar and know how to tweek your amp, I'm sure you can get it to sound great. I've heard many great things from guys I respect who have these new space age steels. That having been said, I don't think I personally could ever buy any instrument sight unseen/heard. Especially for that kind of dough. I'm dying to play one!

For me, the most attractive thing about the new MSA is stll the WEIGHT factor. I think it might be the ONLY D10 on the market that might not get charged as overweight baggage with the recent policy changes on airlines. If you tour at all, this would make up the price difference in a short time.

Dean Schrock · Post by **Dean Schrock** » 10 Jan 2004 12:51 pm

Well, I went and did it, put my order in for a new millennium. The thing that got me off my duff was the special price discount they are getting ready to offer on their guitars. They are getting ready for a special limit production run of the guitars and the price will be disounted about $1000.00 for all models. there will be a limited amount made and it will be first come basis. They haven't made the annoucement yet but Reece said they are getting a lot of people putting orders in already since it leaked out.

Roger Kelly · Post by **Roger Kelly** » 10 Jan 2004 1:51 pm

Way to go Dean....If we only bought the things we really needed, especially these computors, we'd put a lot of people out of a job wouldn't we?

Gordon Borland · Post by **Gordon Borland** » 10 Jan 2004 9:44 pm

Congratulations Dean! What color did you get?
What is the set up? What made you take the leap? My kids are in college or I would get one but if Reece keeps this up my kids might have to go to McDonalds University next semester. Dont forget to give us an update in a few months after you get it broken in.
I would like to know what amp and fx you might be using and why you have one and I dont!!!!!
Iam happy for you that you are able to get something you really wanted. I did get a Peavy Sessions 2000 that I wanted. The only trouble with the Sessions 2000 is that every time I turn it on it kinda pops and I swear it says Millennuim.
Happy Steeling Dean!!!
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MSA D10,NASHVILLE 400,SESSIONS 2000,PEAVEY ADDVERB,SOME WIRES AND A BATTERY.

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Gordon Borland · Post by **Gordon Borland** » 10 Jan 2004 9:52 pm

I wonder if anyone in San Antonio has a new
Millennuim??

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Sidney Malone · Post by **Sidney Malone** » 12 Jan 2004 11:51 am

Congrats Dean, I know you will be very satisfied with your decision!! I believe you will have the finest Steel ever built.

I too will one day be making an order, possibly sooner than I had originally thought........time will tell!!

David Wright · Post by **David Wright** » 12 Jan 2004 11:53 pm

Welcom Dean to Team Millennium
Just a reminder, I will have the new M.S.A. Millennium in Mesa,Az...this weekend!!! Come by the MSA room at the show and play one!!!!!!! see it, hear it, play it, looking forward to seeing everyone there...

"Have I got a deal for YOU!!"

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Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 13 Jan 2004 11:59 am

Dean,
Reece Anderson, Kyle Bennett and the folks at MSA were nice enough to let me field test one of the first MSA Milleniums for a few months , I can say the instrument is mighty and awesome in every way, not to mention drop dead beautiful. I will also mention MSA's excellent customer relations, which means so much.
Good luck in what ever you decide.

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 13 Jan 2004 4:23 pm

Mr White.

I consider it to be a fair question whether or not you bought one, or have plans to?

I know in my case, there are MANY guitars I consider "finer" than my Old ProIII, but I have no plans nor desire to buy another. Mainly because of the neck height differences. It's "my" guitar.

I consider your answer or reasoning could be similar, so it's not a "pointed question".

Thanks for any answer.

EJL

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 13 Jan 2004 6:16 pm

Eric...

Yes, Tommy bought one! I saw him play it several times on the Opry.

Eric West · Post by **Eric West** » 13 Jan 2004 11:43 pm

Donny, I was aware of that, but it appears that we are drawing different conclusions. Hence the question.

EJL

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 14 Jan 2004 4:40 am

...whether or not you bought one, or have plans to?

Eric, we don't all have ESP. Why don't you come right out and ask what you want to know?

Dave Burr · Post by **Dave Burr** » 14 Jan 2004 5:41 am

Eric,

Not sure if this is the answer your looking for, but it may help. http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/004598.html

Respectfully,
Dave Burr