Is this a phishing expedition?

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John Lacey
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Is this a phishing expedition?

Post by John Lacey »

I got this notice from Apple iTunes this morning and I just wonder if it's a phishing thing happening? Your Apple ID was just used to download FOOTBALL MANAGER HANDHELD 2014
from the App Store on a computer or device that had not previously been
associated with that Apple ID.

ORDER NUMBER: QWACVW291HD
ORDER TOTAL: 9.35 CAD

If you initiated this download, you can disregard this email. It was only sent to
alert you in case you did not initiate the download yourself.

If you did not initiate this download, we recommend that you go to

ITUNES PAYMENT Cancellation Form

Thank you." In the iTunes cancellation form, they ask for my Apple ID and password. I know I didn't download anything in the last 24 hrs., but how would I confirm whether the message is from apple or not. There was $7.34 charged to my credit card account so maybe it was illegitimate. Is there a site where I can verify this?
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Post by Wiz Feinberg »

John;
If this message you got was an email, you can expose the source code and see where the clickable links actually go. Or, if you read it on a computer, rather than a hand held device, hover over the links and the true URL should appear in a "status bar" on the bottom of the email client. See if they actually go to a real Apple or iTunes URL. Check your own bookmarks from your last purchase to get a legit URL.

You can also just log into your apple store/iTunes account and look for notifications/messages. If this is legit, the same message will appear in your online account.

With the source code exposed, read the header details. The routing of the email shows the last stop near the top. If the domain is apple, the message was probably sent from there (I said probably). You are still safer just logging in directly and not clicking on links in an email.
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John Lacey
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Post by John Lacey »

Wiz, I tried mousing over the title "Apple I'd" on the header and nothing came up. I also tried clicking on it and no-go. I think I'll err on the side of caution and erase the email. Thanks for your time.
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Re: Is this a phishing expedition?

Post by Dave Potter »

John Lacey wrote:In the iTunes cancellation form, they ask for my Apple ID and password. I know I didn't download anything in the last 24 hrs., but how would I confirm whether the message is from apple or not. There was $7.34 charged to my credit card account so maybe it was illegitimate. Is there a site where I can verify this?
That thing's full of red flags. How do you "cancel" an app you've already paid for? And last 24 hours aside, did you buy that app, or not? If not, somebody's trying to get your AppStore account info. I'd be using WhoIs lookup to see who the IP addresses in the message headers belong to.

I sure wouldn't turn over my ID and password to somebody by email. And I'd want to know from my bank who charged the $7.34, and what it was for, especially since it differs from the app amount of "$9.35". I'd "dispute" it, at a minimum, if it wasn't my charge (and change the password if it came from any account I owned).
John Lacey
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Post by John Lacey »

Here's the complete text of the email I received from "Apple ID".
"Your Apple ID was just used to download FOOTBALL MANAGER HANDHELD 2014
from the App Store on a computer or device that had not previously been
associated with that Apple ID.

ORDER NUMBER: QWACVW291HD
ORDER TOTAL: 9.35 CAD

If you initiated this download, you can disregard this email. It was only sent to
alert you in case you did not initiate the download yourself.

If you did not initiate this download, we recommend that you go to

ITUNES PAYMENT Cancellation Form

Thank you." On the up side, I have no connection with football, therefore the question of my interest in the app. Secondly, the statement on my credit card showed my card was charged $7.34, not $9.35. The only transaction done in the last 24 hrs. was crediting Paypal $100. Can. Both numbers sound too high for a fee and besides why would they charge it to iTunes?
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Post by Wiz Feinberg »

John;
If you care to get the source code, copy and paste it into a private message, or send it as email, through this forum.

Read my sticky topics for help with displaying full email headers and source code. I will need the code for the entire message, not just the headers. If your email client is able to, please forward it AS AN ATTACHMENT to me.
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