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What kind of connector is this?

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I need one of these for my antique Leedy Vibraphone. What's it called? Where can I get one?

It connects AC power to the motor. This one is broken internally.


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It's most likely made by Amphenol or Canon. I did several ebay searchs and came up empty. "Vintage power connector" turned up what looked like the other half of this.

I think these were used as power connectors for vintage Ham radios.
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Bob,
I believe Rich is correct. I recall seeing this type of connector on some vintage communications equipment. You may try a sewing machine shop. Perhaps you can salvage one from an old motor or speed-control pedal.

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I've been in electronics of some type since the "Titanic" and in Ham radio since 1960 and have never come across a connector like that.

I looked through an old (1960) AARL Handbook and didn't see a connector like that.
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The Vibraphone was made in the 1930's.

I stuck out looking at old sewing machine parts. It would have made sense, but no luck. Any other ideas?
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MilSpec?

Might check with old surplus electronic parts sources.

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Here's the actual problem:

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The little brass piece for one of the contact screws is missing. :\
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Post by Howard Parker »

Could you adapt something like THIS?

They have non-insulated as well as insulated.

Further search. Are THESE similar?

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Bob, probably easier to fab a new brass piece than to find a replacement plug. Small brass rod is readily available for making parts like these.
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B0b,

You might get a butt splice, or other terminal and cut the connection end off and us it. The brass ring looks to be the same size as some terminals, such as

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The insulated part is easy to get off. I usually grab the ring, spade, or fork with pliers and use a light grip on side cutters into the end of the insulation to turn it and pull it off. Then you could cut off the ring, spade, or fork and use the crimp barrel.
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Post by Craig Baker »

Bob,
That white wire is a lot newer than the Vibraphone. Why not go for a new type connector as well?

Jack,
Did you look around the radio shack on the Titanic? I think that's where I saw one of those connectors.

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Craig, the mate of the connector is well integrated into the vibraphone's design. Any modification would be ugly. I'll probably use some vintage-looking wire instead of this ugly white.

This is what it mates with. The funky looking nail and rod are original, too. They are part of the motor's speed control.

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Post by Bill Moore (RIP) »

That looks like it's just a small piece of brass tubing. You could probably find something similar at a hobby store, one that sells model trains, etc. The screw looks like it's self threading.
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Post by Craig Baker »

Bob,
I can certainly understand wanting to keep it original. In the 1930s they probably used cloth covered wire, which is available today to those restoring old radios. Antique Electronic Supply may be a good source for you and you may also get help on the Antique Radio Forum. Keep us posted Bob, and be sure to let us hear a pretty tune when you have it up and running.

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I've ordered from these folks before... for antique fan restorations. Internally, each wire has a modern PVC jacket and the exterior is braided cloth..... it looks period correct. :)

http://www.sundialwire.com


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B0b,

If you want to try the brass tubing idea, I think Hobby Lobby carries short lengths (1 ft) of brass stuff.
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b0b-
Looky here:
http://www.bitofbrass.co.uk/deluxe-brus ... 1627-p.asp

The picture on the right, of the three small pics.

It says it's a 1/2" 'bayonet' type.
The brass pins look the same, if that's 1/2", it would probably work-
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I'd say no on the tubing. That should be built from rod. Drilled, tapped and machined on the wire connection end.

b0b, if you want to send it down here I can build the replacement part for you.
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No doubt a repair can be fabricated, but I believe the connector originally had spring loaded brushes, instead of the screws. It is very similar to the standard automotive tail lamps of the past. The lamps connections were solid, and the fixture had a spring loaded base to ensure contact.
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Stern light poles have similar connectors, especially the vintage wooden inboards like Chris Craft. Check a marine supply like West Marine to see if any of the modern ones could be massaged into service.
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Bill A. Moore wrote:No doubt a repair can be fabricated, but I believe the connector originally had spring loaded brushes, instead of the screws. It is very similar to the standard automotive tail lamps of the past. The lamps connections were solid, and the fixture had a spring loaded base to ensure contact.
Bill, I think the female half of the connector mounted on the Vibraphone may have the spring loaded contacts if at all. This may be a bayonet type connector.
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That sure could be, Rich, I just couldn't see any other reason for the brass part to be hollow. It would be much easier to make the whole thing solid.
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The brass isn't hollow. It has a hole threaded for the screw. The tops of the screws are is the contact points. The pins in the female section are spring loaded.
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Try to get the right size terminator blocks,
cut the brass part in half and solder the two wires to the two halves.
Use a plastic separator or insulation tape, just in case.
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B0b I have looked through several resources and can't find it. Asked several hams (OLD hams)and they don't remember them...
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