Passing Lick Question

[Walter Hamlin]

I hear a lick that I haven't quite figured out and it shows how ignorant I am, I suppose. I hear a note picked and again the same note but in a different location. This is done quickly and just as a passing lick. Sounds like it may be coming from the first 4 strings. Maybe hit a note on one string slide to another fret, hit another string and it sounds the same. Hope this is explained well enough for you smarter pickers to understand what I am saying.

[Bob Hickish]

Walt
there are two steelers I know of that use that a lot -- one is Lloyd Green & David Hartley of the UK --- check out U-tube and you can see it being done

you correct in how its done --

good luck

[Clyde Lane]

Lower the 2nd string a whole tone and the 5th string with pedal A. Pick 2nd string and then 5th string sliding into it at the same position. This is one way to do it.

[chris ivey]

i do it all the time...usually like at the 4th string, and jump quickly to the 5th string three frets up with the b-c# pedal engaged.

[Dick Sexton]

Pedals down at 5th fret. Block the first note when
you pick the second. Notice 5 on string 4 is the
same note as 8A on string 5 that you slide into.

This could be used as an intro of sorts...
1____________________________________________________
2____________________________________________________
3____________________________________________________
4__5~_____________5~__________________7______________
5_____5A-8A~-5-5A____5A-5____5-5A~__7A___7A-7___7-7A__
6________________________5B~_________________7B______
7____________________________________________________
8____________________________________________________
9____________________________________________________
10___________________________________________________


1____________________________________________________
2____________________________________________________
3_____3--5--5B--5--3--5______________________________
4__5_________________________________________________
5_____3--5--5A--5--3--5______________________________
6__5_________________________________________________
7____________________________________________________
8____________________________________________________
9____________________________________________________
10___________________________________________________

[Stuart Legg]

I'm with Clyde on this. The 2nd string down a whole tone and the 5th string with the A or C pedal.
A pretty common lick for those that have the knee lever with a half stop for the 2nd string more often than not playing the 2nd and 5th together with the 2nd string descending into unison and the 5th string ascending into unison.
Some times but not nearly as often the 1st string and the 4th string with the C pedal ascending into unison.

[Brint Hannay]

I think maybe what Walter is referring to is not bending-into-unison licks, but what Lloyd does at 4:17 here, in Ricky Skaggs's "Nothing Can Hurt You":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=455pOXuJSgc

[Dick Sexton]

Or at about 1:20...

[Brint Hannay]

And at 3:51 he does the 4th string C pedal bend into unison with the 1st string (I think--with Lloyd you never know, bar slant may figure into it). Nowadays people use the 1st string whole-step raise to unison with the 3rd string to get that effect, but Lloyd didn't/doesn't have that change.

[Peter Nylund]

I you are referring to what I am trying to do at 0,41 you are perfectly right about how it is done. Another string, another fret... (never mind the out of sync stuff)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahxfzMcelD4

[John Scanlon]

A la Buddy Cage on "Hello, Mary Lou?"

[Jim Eaton]

Here is my take/method for the multiple/same note lick. I'm going to use the note "A" for this example.
Pick 1st stg @ 3rd fret = A
Pick 4th stg @ 3rd fret, slide up to 5th fret = A
Pick 5th stg @ 5th fret, slide up to 8th fret adding the A pedal to hit the stop when the bar gets to the 8th fret.= A
Pick 5th stg @ 8 fret with A down, slide up to 10th fret and release the A Pedal = A.
The same A note @ 4 different frets with some sliding grace notes to smooth out the moves.
I'm sure there are other ways to get this sound, but this is what works for me.
JE:-)>

[Dave Grafe]

Not sure which "lick' you are referring to, the two most common techniques for achieving the sound you describe on the E9 tuning are:

Pairing the 1st string F# with the 4th string (C pedal) E>F#

Pairing the third string G# with the 1st string F#>G# (if you have this change, my guitar has it at LKL)

[chris ivey]

i do it all the time...usually like at the 4th string, and jump quickly to the 5th string three frets up with the b-c# pedal engaged.

i still think i'm right.

[Walter Hamlin]

Thanks to all of you for the input. The Ricky Skaggs song that Britt mentioned has the lick at about 1:19. I hear someone else play this lick and it sounds so much better when I do it. My Emmons has 7 knees and one of them I can get this lick out of IF, I can get my fat knee to reach forward enough to touch the lever. It is a job just to do that. I have been using the 1st string and move up two frets on the 3rd and pick again to achieve the sound on my other steels. I was thinking there had to be an easier way than using the knee lever and maybe other ways other than the one I am using. I am going to try all the licks you all posted and see which one is easier for me to make.
Thanks

[Lane Gray]

Finger pull 1 up to 3?

[David Gertschen]

As a beginner, I'm still trying to figure out how this string pulling behind the bar is accomplished?

Do you use mostly your left hand third finger and pull it straight back, or up as well, to hold tension against the bar? I just can't seem to make it work any sort of way....

[Bill Howard]

http://youtu.be/3Vuyn4TwVeQ

I think this is the same song?

[Walter Hamlin]

I made a mistake, I menat pick 1st string then slide up two frets and pick 4th string, not 3rd.

[Lane Gray]

Yes, david. Ring finger behind the bar. Pull it mostly back, with just a touch of up.