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I'm not a fan of the Carter tone, it's too nasal for me, as are many other contemporary steels.
Maybe it's the all-pull changer, maybe it's the folded aluminium neck, maybe it's the low string clearance over the body, maybe it's the way that the strings are retained at the finger, or maybe it's a combination of all these things, but I just don't like the 'nasal twang' exhibited by these steels.
I realise that I am in the minority here, as a lot of players reckon that the nasal twang
is the epitome of PSG tone
Maybe it's the all-pull changer, maybe it's the folded aluminium neck, maybe it's the low string clearance over the body, maybe it's the way that the strings are retained at the finger, or maybe it's a combination of all these things, but I just don't like the 'nasal twang' exhibited by these steels.
I realise that I am in the minority here, as a lot of players reckon that the nasal twang
is the epitome of PSG tone
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Tony Prior
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richard burton wrote:I'm not a fan of the Carter tone, it's too nasal for me, as are many other contemporary steels.
Maybe it's the all-pull changer, maybe it's the folded aluminium neck, maybe it's the low string clearance over the body, maybe it's the way that the strings are retained at the finger, or maybe it's a combination of all these things, but I just don't like the 'nasal twang' exhibited by these steels.
Maybe it's the pickup choice..
Maybe you should try a pickup to your liking...
Maybe it's the amp or maybe it's the amp settings
a lot of maybe's...
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Richard, how many pints of beer have you had??
I know Richard very well...ace on steel mechanics and him and his wife are really lovely people. Richard I guess it's like most things in life, Some like blonde women, some prefer them dark....I just like women
...funny thing is I can play my Sho-Bud, then immediately switch over to my Carter...I still sound "ME" go figure that!!
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Actually, it is a Boss GE7 in the same box. Just the sliders are set and then broken off inside.b0b wrote:So, a Bo-Bro is just a 7-band EQ in a different box?
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that SNOT what I think about the tone of a Carter.
Carter D10 8p/7k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup, Regal RD40 Dobro (D tuning), Recording King Professional Dobro (G tuning), NV400, NV112, Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open G slide and regular G tuning guitar) .
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Pickups made a huge difference in my Carter. I ordered a new one years ago and went with TW pups. I got the guitar and while it looked great, played great and stayed in tune, tone wise it was a dog. I called and spoke with Bud Carter and he sent me a pair or XR-16 pickups he said "try these, you'll like em" He was right. I still have it. John Fabian had a black D-10 that was his personal guitar (he usually had it at NAMM shows) it was an exceptional instrument, even Buddy said so.
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Carter
Good to hear your point on the forum RICHARD. The thing is I did have on my first choice a D10 on the British Steelie's Forum, but I did have a few minor points to clear up first which were never answered. Then later on the seller mentioned in a reply to an exchange deal he did not care for CARTERS .Perhaps I made a mistake in his meaning it was only twelve string carters he did not like, but I took that he ment it in general.Therefore I cut it out altogether!I did enjoy the Buddy Carter presentation on U tube as suggested in one of the letters. I am sure it is difficult to satisfy all tastes in music and in sounds produced by instruments but if we love what we have then perhaps we will be satisfied . Best Wishes to you all JAMES TAYLOR

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Carter
The most attractive looking pedal steel guitar I have seen. If it sounds and plays as good as it looks it will be some guitar.Except for the cosmetics is there a difference with it and other Carter D10's? JAMES TAYLOR

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The Alumitone pickups are the big feature, James. Mechanically, it's a standard D-10. I reconfigured the undercarriage for my tunings.
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Sunburst psg
I agree, B0b's new musical machine is just awesome in sunburst.
Too bad, many patrons and fans won't see it at gigs.
That's the colour I remembered from 40 years ago. I always wondered how they did it.
By the way, did Al build some S10's?

Too bad, many patrons and fans won't see it at gigs.
That's the colour I remembered from 40 years ago. I always wondered how they did it.
By the way, did Al build some S10's?
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My SD12 Carter
She looks great she sounds great and plays absolutely superb.
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Re: Carter
I didn't like them, James. Sounded chunky to me, and too hot. I've removed them and replaced the front with a Tonealigner. I have a George L 10-1 on the rear, but I plan to replace it with another Tonealigner.James Taylor wrote:B0B I have never heard of ALUMITONE P/U's are they brighter than the origonals and TRUETONE? JAMES TAYLOR![]()
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Don't use the word CHEAPER, it's not CHEAPER, it's slightly less expensive due to Johns business sense in acquiring parts to build dozens of guitars at a clip, not one at a time. We all know how the math works, it's less expensive to manufacture multiple items at the same time rather than one at a time. Cheaper implies less quality, Carters are NOT less quality. Yes, John wanted to make a few changes on some of the components but it wasn't related to quality. John was an excellent process engineer and he understood and put into practice a high quality manufacture with excellent cost controls, which at the end of the day ='s a quality product at a competitive price.
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The issue in the cost of parts that are outsourced, like Carter did, is it is less expensive to run many parts than it it to run just a few, like Tony said. A big part of the expense is the set-up time for the job. Every time you order part(s), the machinist has to mount the vise, set the zero position, load the program, etc. This is assuming the machinist is using a CNC milling machine/machining center. Doing parts on a manual mill is worse.Tony Prior wrote:Don't use the word CHEAPER, it's not CHEAPER, it's slightly less expensive due to Johns business sense in acquiring parts to build dozens of guitars at a clip, not one at a time. We all know how the math works, it's less expensive to manufacture multiple items at the same time rather than one at a time. Cheaper implies less quality, Carters are NOT less quality. Yes, John wanted to make a few changes on some of the components but it wasn't related to quality. John was an excellent process engineer and he understood and put into practice a high quality manufacture with excellent cost controls, which at the end of the day ='s a quality product at a competitive price.
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Playing for 56 years and still counting.
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