Musical topics not directly related to steel guitar
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b0b
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Post by b0b 18 Nov 2012 3:53 pm
Alan Brookes wrote: I have no idea what the term "rock" now encompasses. It seems to mean nothing more than "pop" nowadays.
Pop music today bears no relation to rock. Alan. It's all very clever, advanced digital gimickry. The most popular singer in the world today is "auto-tune".
Theresa Galbraith
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Post by Theresa Galbraith 19 Nov 2012 2:25 pm
LOL topic!
Alan Brookes
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Post by Alan Brookes 20 Nov 2012 12:19 pm
Bobby Lee wrote: ...Pop music today bears no relation to rock...
Then what is rock ?
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Post by b0b 20 Nov 2012 12:48 pm
Rock is typically guitar-based music in 4/4 time with strong bass lines, drums & cymbals. Very little of today's pop music is remotely close to that profile.
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Post by Joachim Kettner 20 Nov 2012 12:55 pm
Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube.
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Post by b0b 20 Nov 2012 1:47 pm
Contrast that with Rianna's current pop hit:
http://youtu.be/2LT23ixDaJo
or Maroon 5 (currently #1):
http://youtu.be/fwK7ggA3-bU
It's not rock. It's a different kind of music.
Alan Brookes
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Post by Alan Brookes 21 Nov 2012 11:24 am
Bobb Lee wrote: Rock is typically guitar-based music in 4/4 time with strong bass lines, drums & cymbals. Very little of today's pop music is remotely close to that profile.
Yes, that's
rock and roll , and it's usually syncopated, but during the 60s they even started calling Joan Baez rock, and they started introducing all sorts of minor chords. It seems to me that the term
rock has lost its meaning.
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Post by b0b 21 Nov 2012 11:42 am
I virtually disagree.
Bob Ritter
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Post by Bob Ritter 21 Nov 2012 9:12 pm
Do you guys think Robert Randolph can even play country music on the pedal steel guitar
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Post by chris ivey 22 Nov 2012 1:43 pm
yes.
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Post by Joe Casey 23 Nov 2012 6:49 am
Why would he ever want too? Would he like to be out of work?
Barry Blackwood
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Post by Barry Blackwood 23 Nov 2012 8:04 am
Do you guys think Robert Randolph can even play country music on the pedal steel guitar
Bob, I have heard him do it, and it is good to the point of embarrassment for most of us.
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Post by Joachim Kettner 23 Nov 2012 8:54 am
Has "Let Your Love Grow" already been mentioned?
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Barry Blackwood
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Post by Barry Blackwood 23 Nov 2012 8:12 pm
Joachim, I don't believe so, but it's certainly a contender IMO..
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Post by Joachim Kettner 23 Nov 2012 11:27 pm
Nice to see that you agree, Barry. I've seen the Bellamys in the mid- eighties. They were advertised as "Country" on the concert posters. It wasn't so.
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Barry Blackwood
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Post by Barry Blackwood 24 Nov 2012 9:38 am
I used to refer to them as the "Bellowing Brothersβ¦"
Alan Brookes
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Post by Alan Brookes 24 Nov 2012 9:55 am
Up until the 20th century, Country Music was a bunch of farmers singing in a pub while swilling beer.
