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Barry,

Must you always create a dread to open your responses?? There is a great need to scope objectives that will defeat the harmful effects of systems that pry into developmental projects. Moreover, such activities that relate to increased CAMARADERIES among steel guitarists, and for those who engage in friendly exchanges in the interest of reciprocation, could be expected to reach designated goals over time. At the present time, there is a need for creating an universal plan to feature steel guitarists at yearly steel guitar shows. After presenting 24 successful shows here in the Berkshires, I think that the shows should continue by introducing an ironclad plan for the benefit of patrons and musicians.
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Bill,I was just wondering if your gout has gotten any better?
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Bill Hankey wrote:
Must you always create reluctancies to open your responses. There is a great need to scope objectives that will defeat the harmful effects of systems that pry into developmental projects. Moreover, such activities that relate to increased CAMARADERIES among steel guitarists, and for those who engage in friendly exchanges in the interest of reciprocation, could be expected to reach designated goals over time.
Bill I think your observations are a times obscured by your vocabulary but I won't try to explain because I might in so doing lead to the point of your membership deactivation as I did when trying to explain the way my son posts.
I have gone back and reread a lot of your posts and there I was joining in following those who make unfair judgments based on misconception rather than taking the time to try to read, understand and give you the benefit of the doubt. This has been going on so long that it has become mythical.
I'm sorry that it took me seeing someone close to me be put put in your shoes before I came to this realization.
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Stu,

Thanks Stu for the inquiry. I'm having a real problem anticipating the problem of having to go the allopurinol route. Giving up some of the most delicious entrees may reduce the abundance of uric acid. If the kidneys are not clearing out the acids, the situation can worsen. My ankles and toes are free from discomfort at the present time. My wife has promised that cherries will be on sale at local supermarkets this week. There are those who claim that cherries help to remove uric acid. Emphasizing that there are no magical cures for gout, would be the understatement of the day.
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Must you always create reluctancies to open your responses. There is a great need to scope objectives that will defeat the harmful effects of systems that pry into developmental projects.
Bill, the first sentence is a question requiring the proper puncuation for clarity's sake. Also, I don't believe there is a plural form of reluctant. All that aside, please explain the rest of your statement in layman's terms for the rest of us.
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Barry,

Must you always create reluctancies to open your responses. There is a great need to scope objectives that will defeat the harmful effects of systems that pry into developmental projects. Moreover, such activities that relate to increased CAMARADERIES among steel guitarists, and for those who engage in friendly exchanges in the interest of reciprocation, could be expected to reach designated goals over time. At the present time, there is a need for creating an universal plan to feature steel guitarists at yearly steel guitar shows. After presenting 24 successful shows here in the Berkshires, I think that the shows should continue by introducing an ironclad plan for the benefit of patrons and musicians.
Bill,
Perhaps the above could have enhanced appreciation if presented in a more free flowing order such as this:

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Barry,

I corrected your plausible grammatical errors. Are you making your rounds, or just roosting on my slippages?
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Reluctancies Syndrome

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Bill.

I see you are having trouble with the "reluctancies syndrome." Itis so called owing to the multiple nature of it. This syndrome is associated with a high incidence of physical activity in childhood. Occasionally those with multiple reluctancies syndrome jump of buildings in an endeavor to defeat gravity. It is difficult to diagnose both because of the nature of the syndrome and because of professional reluctance.

Although it is most difficult to diagnose during childhood because of the subtlety of the syndrome, the much higher morbidity found in adult cases makes it imperative that it be diagnosed and treated early in order to avoid further morbidity and to shorten treatment time.

AS a starting point I would recommend that you look into the the history, clinical features and treatment of relutancies syndrome, particularly in children, in addition to exploring the professional reluctance to make the diagnosis.

I trust that this sheds light on this malevolent syndrome.
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I corrected your plausible grammatical errors. Are you making your rounds, or just roosting on my slippages?
Bill, just trying to make sense of your posts. Spelling and Grammatical errors merely add to the confusion.
AS a starting point I would recommend that you look into the the history, clinical features and treatment of relutancies syndrome, particularly in children, in addition to exploring the professional reluctance to make the diagnosis.

Brian, you are also misspelling and misusing the word reluctancy. Aside from that, I Googled "reluctancy syndrome," and couldn't find any reference to it at all. Does the medical community use another term for this condition other than "reluctancy syndrome?"

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The commakaze strikes again

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Barry,

Since both Bill and I consider ourselves innovators, we spend endless hours analysing books and disecting them on subjects such as "complex methodical disorder" and the "reluctancies syndrome." These subjects owing to their obscurity and complexity are not yet listed on google.

However articles on these subjects are being edited currently, and will appear initially on wikipedia soon. Both subjects are fascinating and have a relevance to steel guitars and steel guitarists. Stay tuned for more pertinent details.
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OK, I'm tuned. :eek:
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Going back to the original post of this thread, Bill, I take exception to this concept...
Bill Hankey wrote:It's interesting to observe the flaming away by serious constituencies who are members of this forum.

In this first sentence, you have characterized the said "constituencies" as serious in nature; in the next sentence...
Bill Hankey wrote:They seem to fall into a crack or shadow similar to a trap-door spider, and spring out whenever absolute trivia threads appear.

Now this is a little vague; you fail to specify what these "serious constituencies" do when they spring out into trivial threads. One might think that, if they were "serious", they wouldn't bother with absolutely trivial threads, would they? If we were to assume that what they do or say concerning the trivia is negative, that would contradict this next statement...
Bill Hankey wrote:Pursuant to remaining resolute to nonsensical trivia

Again, this is vague; saying that they are resolute to nonsensical trivia does not specify whether they are resolute in support of or in opposition to the nature of the trivial thread itself, or in what way. If, conversely, we were to assume that "remaining resolute to nonsensical trivia" means being steadfast in support of such trivia being published, that is what would be a contradiction of the aforementioned assumption of their responses being negative (which is based on the "flaming" language in your first sentence).

I feel that it is your duty to clear this up.
Bill Hankey wrote:they devalue the essence of moving forward musically.
I have yet to see an instance where a serious individual on this forum has done anything but renew the value of the essence of moving forward musically, so I disagree with this statement.
Bill Hankey wrote:I'm truly at the threshold of redirecting thoughts concerning individuals integrating, and posing as contributors of things relative to a learning process.
If you do this Bill, you'll be redirecting your thoughts of individuals who enjoy posting nonsensical and trivial things, not serious contributors. Wherever you redirect these thoughts to, I hope it is a direction that enriches your understanding of what is valuable discourse and what is trivial.
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this thread is giving me a headache. :cry:
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Duane R.

Your wide-ranging searches for something worthwhile in my written critique of assemblages of responding forum members, ran afowl apparently due to a lack of familiarity with response proceedings, and you starting off with a bang! If you should be in the mood to do further researching for the purpose of clarification, there are literally thousands of past messages that will keep you busy for weeks, months, and possibly years. I must be honest by stating my feelings about accountabilities. Perhaps you've been following commentaries and useful information in reference to offered assistance in solving the problems commonly linked to the steel guitar. As of this moment, I haven't the vaguest notion where you stand on the multiples of relevancies that may attune you and your opinions to a more serious position in fault findings that could survive a reversal better known as, "The hunter becomes the hunted". We'll see! Personally, I would be looking for a coordinated and prevailing interest in matters pertinent to advancing musically. :)
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Curt,

BTW, an enhanced appreciation might take shape should you decide to replace that nervous perfunctory grasshopper avatar with something less agitated; such as the cool dude in row 3 of the emoticons. (Ex. 8)) Please lead me into your assumed level of steel guitar expertise. Nervous conditions can be disastrous. Countless steel guitar performances have taken that old dirt road when the players couldn't warm up to a tense situation.
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Tim,

It's difficult to appreciate those stress headaches. I've been spared through all the years that I've lived. It makes me wonder after hearing on a daily basis, of others plagued with the encumbrance.
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Chris,

Yesterday afternoon I was contemplating throwing in the towel, and finding another pastime to "herd" my cares off the worrisome main thoroughfares of life, and perhaps serving up the implacable constituencies with nine yards of good country music. Roughly 9/10 of this membership appears to be into anything but solid clear through country music. I have no problems deriving from these simple facts, other than the clutter they've created along the highways that lead to the best steel guitar performances. Crying steel guitars, early on, attracted me personally, as the musically incomparable renditions blew away the best sidemen with relative ease. Not once at that time, did I imagine myself seated at the instrument, and actually becoming a bandmember. Chris, you and that imposing duck! That particular farm bred swimming bird that seems to fascinate you endlessly, does sort of remind me of someone who has lost their "quacker". It also reminds me of "Pat" the would-be farmer. He was forever searching for a "boy" duck to keep his "girl" duck contented. Give me a break!! That bird clutters the essence of certain liberties; mine included! Bag the duck, and take it to a farm auction, and while you're out, consider improving the overall sneakers appearance. They are as appropriate as the "whip" on the automobile. I can't get past those #12's without comment. ;-)
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Bill,

Your thread is wandering of the subject. Don't forget that Complex Methodical Disorder has a low heritability (tendency to be inherited) compared to single disorders. For example, only 2-5 per cent of the close relatives of those afflicted with complex methodical disorder also suffer from it, much lower than would be the case for a single methodical disorder. This indicates that no single genetic factor is responsible for the disorder. Several to many genes may contribute, and there may be additional environmental causes such as poor diet and exposure to hazardous chemicals.

It is thought that the incidence of any complex methodical disorder is dependent on a balance of risks. There is a balance between gene variants (alleles) with positive and negative effects, and between environmental factors with positive and negative effects. Too many negative factors, both genetic and environmental, can tip the balance towards this disorder.

Large-scale studies can help to isolate genes that contribute to complex methodical disorder since individuals with alleles that predispose them towards the disorder will statistically be more likely to be affected. Similarly, those with alleles that protect them from the disorder will statistically be less likely to be affected. Many genes have been identified by looking for correlations between single methodical disorders (SMD) and complex methodical disorders in large populations.
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tbhenry,

Realistically, every thinking person should have come to the conclusion at this point in time, that scientific studies dealing with genetics, are in an infancy stage. Who could begin to understand how inherited genes from 40 generations ago affect psychological differences witnessed in present day individuals? Numerous impertinent jaundiced individuals, otherwise known to me as bothersome interlopers, have a field day by slipping into serious studies, and interjecting opinions very much distant from a serious point of view. Automobiles, aircraft, clothing, all change with the times. When I suggested making changes on the STEEL GUITAR, the call to arms echoed throughout the forum. Consequently, my plan crashed somewhere in a jungle of disbelievers.
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Bill Hankey wrote:Yes, of course Barry! Threads such as: Does a black steel sound better than others of different colors? I can't recall how many agree with such nonsense.
Nonsense? It's a proven fact that black guitars sound best to the player. The lack of visual stimuli allows the player to focus more on the sound, enhancing the tonal qualities in the player's brain.

As usual, you and I disagree on pertinent aspects of steel guitar knowledge, Bill. :mrgreen:
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Stay tuned for more pertinent details.
Don't forget that Complex Methodical Disorder has a low heritability (tendency to be inherited) compared to single disorders. For example, only 2-5 per cent of the close relatives of those afflicted with complex methodical disorder also suffer from it, much lower than would be the case for a single methodical disorder. This indicates that no single genetic factor is responsible for the disorder. Several to many genes may contribute, and there may be additional environmental causes such as poor diet and exposure to hazardous chemicals.

It is thought that the incidence of any complex methodical disorder is dependent on a balance of risks. There is a balance between gene variants (alleles) with positive and negative effects, and between environmental factors with positive and negative effects. Too many negative factors, both genetic and environmental, can tip the balance towards this disorder.

Large-scale studies can help to isolate genes that contribute to complex methodical disorder since individuals with alleles that predispose them towards the disorder will statistically be more likely to be affected. Similarly, those with alleles that protect them from the disorder will statistically be less likely to be affected. Many genes have been identified by looking for correlations between single methodical disorders (SMD) and complex methodical disorders in large populations.
Still tuned in Brian, but I need more proof. With this latest onslaught of psuedo-medical gobbledygook, I'm considering changing stations. :eek:
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b0b,

You disagree with me frequently, or more accurately nonstop. I ask that you hold up just for a few moments to read me out. I couldn't buck constituted authority, such as your recognized aspersions in various threads that bear my name. Don't get me wrong! My respect for you ranges near 100% in matters relating to important issues. It's doubtful if anyone could fill your shoes. I could never bring myself to disrespect anything that lies in the realm of your mindsets. It didn't take me long to read between your lines, when you commenced to spar with dubious issues. Confronting you may place me over a trapdoor to a nevermore consequence. From a friendly point of view, I'd enjoy challenging with a scientific approach to staging disagreements with various members; those who firmly believe by taking a stand, that black is better in stringed musical instruments by creating better performances. As they say: "The ball is in your court."
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Barry,

Where I came from, it's called, "Getting smoked out!"
Or, fetch me a weasel in the woodpile.