S-10 vs D-10 vs S-12 vs D-12

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What is your PSG configuration?

S-10 (single 10 string neck)
30
15%
SD-10 (S-10 on double body)
40
20%
D-10 (double 10)
82
41%
S-12 (single 12 string neck)
35
18%
SD-12 (S-12 on double body)
7
4%
D-12 (double 12)
3
2%
other (reply to specify)
2
1%
 
Total votes: 199

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S-10 vs D-10 vs S-12 vs D-12

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Since Mike Perlowin's post wasn't really a poll, I created one.

If you have more than one pedal steel, answer this for the one that you play most often.
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I'm the first "other". My main guitar these days is a single 8.
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I'm with b0b.
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I Had a gorgeous SD 12 at one time. It was an MSA vintage XL with a beautiful sunburst lacquer finish. It was stolen, along with a Peavey LTD and an a small suitcase filled with effects, including a Mutron Bi-Phase and a steel guitar (2 string) E-bow.

Fortunately I had insurance, and was able to replace everything. I was even found a steel E-bow. I replaced the SD 12 with an older white tidewood S-12, which I recently sold.
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I'm surprised to see more people playing single than double necks. I always thought D-10 was "the standard".
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b0b wrote:I'm surprised to see more people playing single than double necks. I always thought D-10 was "the standard".
I believe the key here refers to your earlier post regarding the one you play most often.

My guess is that a number of the S-10 and SD-10 voters might own at least one D-10, but the guitar that receives the most use is the single neck with the E9th. It reminds me of the article on Lloyd Green from The Country Music Journal several years ago where Lloyd spoke of going to Shot Jackson back in the 70's to see about getting the back neck of his Sho-Bud taken off and replacing it with a pad, and it resulted in what was essentially the first LDG model. Lloyd's comment was that in checking his session log book, he used the C6th neck a grand total of five times in the previous 600 sessions. That's less than 1%!

I would be curious that out of the D-10 voters in this poll, how often those C6th necks actually get played.
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D-10 for me b0b. I wanted to go to an SD-10 for a tad lighter guitar, but my wife said she liked my C6 playin better than my E9. And I ain't no C6 player for sure! Shucks, I probly don't play over 3 or 4 songs on C6. If you'd even call it playin. :roll:

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Post by Thiel Hatt »

I like the 12 string universal concept (more as a novelty) but prefer a D10 for regular use. I feel equally at ease on either neck . I have played the C6th longer than I have the E9th, however. On most gigs the E9th gets the most use.
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Post by Ryan Barwin »

My main guitar is a D-10...pretty standard E9 and C6 with 8&5.

I'm very interested in the universal concept and I'd like to have one, in some configuration...S-12, SD-12, or maybe more strings.
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Post by John Swindle »

It took only a little research to convince me that my first pedal steel had to be a D-10. I wanted to dive into E9, without wasting the little bit I'd learned from non-pedal C6. Six months later, I'm still glad I made that choice.
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I play a D-12, although I only have 11 on my C6.
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Post by Hook Moore »

I would be surprised if the D-10 doesn't take the lead..
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D-10I voted. MAX
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Post by Brint Hannay »

I don't have a single-width steel. I voted SD-10, although I most often gig with one of my two D-10's, because they're my favorite steels. The back neck is just a less-comfortable pad! (But I'm still very slowly familiarizing myself with the C6th, in hopes I might play a song or two on it some day!)
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Post by Bob Vantine »

b0b......

I'd be curious :\ ,after this thread has run its course, :\ as to the number of standard headstock as opposed to keyless systems .Anyone else wonder about that?

I just ordered a new S-10 this morning to stay more in line with this thread.

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Post by William Lake »

Well...I guess mine is a bit of an oddball. It is a SD-10 set up for C6. 6x6.
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Post by Glenn Suchan »

Currently (and most likely, for a long time to come) I play a D10, E9th/C6th (Emmons "Original"). However, I have owned and played an S10, E9th (Emmons "Original"), an S12, E9th/B6th (Emmons "Original"), and an S14, E9th/B6th (keyless). I liked all the "ex's" and love the current guitar. To me, each of the tuning configurations have their pluses and minuses, but the current one feels best. :)

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Post by Bobby Burns »

I own a few double necks, and I am more comfortable with the leg room sitting behind a double, but when I pack up for a gig, the smaller, lighter s-10 is the one that goes.
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doubles for now, leaning toward 14's

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I cast my vote for D10. I'm working on a universal 14 and doing some jams with it. Played 12 & 14 uni's back in the early 90's exclusively.

I plan to make the U14 my main axe soon as I've got it altogether configured, but for now I'm saying double 10's.
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Post by Paul Pearson »

I voted for the sd10 the little extra weight I can handle for more comfortable playing guitar.
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Double 10 Zum, Double 8 Fender dual pro. Double necks always for me. My dobro is single neck,but if they made double necked dobro's I'd be first in line. Did I mention I like double neck guitars? :lol: :lol: :lol: Bob
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Double body, E9 up front, six string on rear for rock slide/Dobro.
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Post by David Doggett »

Not suprisingly, D10 is the biggest group. But it is nevertheless a minority. If you break it down to the basic choice of single neck versus double neck, it is 53% single neck versus 43% double neck. Don't know if that will hold up, but 172 is getting to be a pretty good sized sample. I'm thinking the flexibility of modern mechanics and copedents, and changing styles have taken away some of the perceived requirement to have two necks. That plus the aging of our backs. :\
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Post by b0b »

David Doggett wrote:I'm thinking the flexibility of modern mechanics and copedents, and changing styles have taken away some of the perceived requirement to have two necks.
In my case, the flexibility of modern mechanics has taken away the perceived requirement of 10 strings. :P

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