The Push Pull from Hell

Instruments, mechanical issues, copedents, techniques, etc.

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Re: The Push Pull from Hell

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Check my input further down

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Post by Mike Wilson »

Definitely fixable. what Dave Magram said, or the thought that I'm entertaining is maybe pull all the guts out of it and have a new body built for it. It will never be the same no matter what you do. But it won't be bad either.
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Post by David Mason »

You do understand, if that was an old Stratocaster in that condition it would be worth a minimum of $15,000... there's something wrong with you steel guys, don't you know that trashed = character = da blooz = soul? Tarnation.... :roll:
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thanks

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Sure appreciate all the posts, guess things could be a lot worse, glad I didn't buy a shrimp boat businees in Port Sulphur, La. I shot you a PM Jerry.
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David, I need PayPal address ASAP as we are just leaving to go to Cleveland for a few days. I would like to pay you before we leave.
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Post by Jerry Roller »

David, I am having to leave right now for Cleveland. The car is loaded and Carlene is saying "we need to leave". As far as I am concerned it is a done deal but I need a couple of days to finalize. I am quite happy with the deal. Please call my cell phone (479) 806-5330 or email me your PayPal address.
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Post by Frank Parish »

I won't mention the guys name but a guy here had a 66 bolt-on (you know one of those coveted ones) and he would leave it downtown set up and drag it from bar to bar set up, leave it in it's case still set up all over downtown while the customers would walk by. So that tells you how he took care of it but one night he left it set up from his gig at the most famous place on Broadway and walked in the next night to play and he stepped on the pedals and they didn't come back up so he knew something was wrong. The guitar had either been fallen on from a fight or some drunk sat on it and the body had a crack inbetween the necks end to end. He was trying to find somebody to fix it and I talked to him about it and told him I'd just have a new body made and start over. So a few weeks later I seen him and asked what he did with that guitar and he said he fixed it but I never saw him play it again so he probably sold it. Man I sure wouldn't want that one for any price because it needed major surgery. I never seen anybody do the stuff to their guitars like he does, talk about rigging with baleing wire and no telling what else. I'd take this guitar of yours and just have another body made and start over if you want a good guitar or at the very least replace the back apron or whichever one has that big cut out of it. That guy should be arrested for that by the steel guitar police!
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Post by Carson Leighton »

That guitar looks like it could be re-done..I would difinetly save the original wood and fix it though, unless it's rotten..A good cabinet builder could fix that bad spot,,by either making a whole new apron or cutting that piece right out to the end plate,,and using strong glue and wooden biscuits,,join on to the existing apron with a new piece...The joint can be made so it would be just as strong and never be seen after refinishing...
It's hard to tell what kind of shape the wood is really in,,because there is so much that can't be seen in the pictures...I wonder what year it is,,early 70's maybe? I'll bet that would be a great sounding steel after it's re-done..You never know,,it might sound pretty darn good right now...Carson
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it's going away

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It's headed to Arkansas with a salvage title. Donation coming.
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1974 I believe.
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Post by Jerry Roller »

David, I just got back home from the Cleveland Clinic trip and am going to PayPal right now and pay up. Thanks for waiting for me.
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burnt emmons

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You could recover your cost and probably show a profit just cleaning the parts in a tumbler and selling them off.

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Ouch!!...ouch!

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Call Albert Johnson in Tallahassee and see what he says...this may a job for UNDERDOG! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Post by Jerry Roller »

Here is the present state of this guitar. Look what is covered up by that nasty looking blue paint. When I get around to finishing it I will post "after" photos.
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Jerry...Keep us posted along the way. I enjoy seeing projects in various stages of repair...Bob
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got right on it

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Boy Jerry, you got right on that. This is going to be a good show.
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wow

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I guess old guitars never die!
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All the best Jerry. I look forward to seeing the finished product! :)

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It's not dead yet. Keep watching!
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Perhaps name the restored guitar Lazarus.

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Are you keeping the original body?

I'll be following this closely.
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Maybe the old dude has real bad eyesight?

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Post by Richard Sinkler »

I don't know Jerry. I kind of likes the original condition you got it in :lol: :lol: Don't see anything wrong. :whoa: :whoa:

Seriously David, if you got it for a good price, you should have a great guitar when you are done with it (well, it will still be a great guitar even if you paid too much).
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Post by Paul Norman (RIP) »

Jerry send it to Rick Campbell and he will wash it for you first before you start.
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Post by chris ivey »

hey, i've heard about that thing....wasn't that the wagon that someone made an emmons out of?
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Post by Elton Smith »

If you wanted a new one you should have bought one.Do what you gotta do.
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