Light weight S-10

Jack Mattison · Post by **Jack Mattison** » 2 Mar 2010 11:08 am

I am thinking of getting a light weight S-10, because my old ShoBud D-10 is just too much for me to keep packing around. I only play right now at church, but if I want to bring it home for practising purposes, its getting too much for this old 76yr. old back. I have been looking at a "Stage-One". Have talked to Doug by e-mail, and he thinks I would be well satisfied for what I want. Also thinking about a "Carp". So........ I am asking you guys who Know!! I want to know which one has less tunning problems, Less wobble, less cabinet drop, and which one plays and sounds better. I know they are both built good, and are more an intermidate guitar not a begginer guitar.?? Any help on this guys???? Thanks for your input. God Bless.... Jack<><

Chris Dorch · Post by **Chris Dorch** » 2 Mar 2010 11:38 am

I don't have an answer for your question, but don't forget about the Jackson Edge Ultra-Lite...

Jim Eaton · Post by **Jim Eaton** » 2 Mar 2010 11:51 am

I have owned both the StageOne & Carpsteel guitars.
I only sold the StageOne due to monitary issues and to keep peace on the homefront!
When the need for a light weight traveling guitar came up again, I decided to go with the Carpsteel as I can put my exact set up on it.
I currently have the Carpsteel in my assortment of guitars as my "fly-gig" guitar.
Both are fine instruments that play smooth and sound good.
I would recommend either one as a great value for the price.
JE:-)>

Jack Mattison · Post by **Jack Mattison** » 2 Mar 2010 12:01 pm

Thanks Jim for the info...........

Ron Randall · Post by **Ron Randall** » 2 Mar 2010 1:52 pm

Take a look at the Jackson BlackJack.

S10

Jack Mattison · Post by **Jack Mattison** » 2 Mar 2010 2:38 pm

Thanks Ron....... I would love to have a "BlackJack", but I am afried its a little more then I can afford at this time. The StageOne is less, and I think the Carpsteel is in the same price range. I may hold off, for awhile untill things change for me. Thanks again.......... Jack<><

Karen Sarkisian · Post by **Karen Sarkisian** » 4 Mar 2010 1:12 pm

I can vouch for the Stage One. It plays great, stays in tune, looks good and is stable. I ahvent had any problems with it at all.

Jack Mattison · Post by **Jack Mattison** » 4 Mar 2010 4:46 pm

Thanks Karen for the input....... Jack<><

A. J. Martinez · Post by **A. J. Martinez** » 4 Mar 2010 5:24 pm

Jack...I have a GFI s-10 ...very light,stays in tune,easy to work on to change copedents,great tone!A.J.

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 4 Mar 2010 6:33 pm

Jack, this is why I make light weight split cases. They take 22 pounds off the one piece carrying weight. The wheels on the body case make transporting a breeze. www.hattoncases.net

Randy Wade · Post by **Randy Wade** » 5 Mar 2010 10:05 am

The Stage-One is excellent, you won't go wrong with one of those.

Don McClellan · Post by **Don McClellan** » 5 Mar 2010 10:41 pm

If weight is the issue...I think you should consider learning to play a lap steel. Get a single neck 8 string and tune it to C6th/A7. You'll love it and it weighs and costs so little comparatively. Its not difficult playing pedal and lap steel. I do it all the time now. They even help each other. The more I learn on lap steel the better my pedal steel playing gets and vise versa even though my psg has 11 strings and my lap steel has 8. Not a problem.
I'm always very pleased with myself when I do a gig with just my lap steel. Tom Morrell told me that he just got tired of carrying a psg around after 40 years. Don

Fred Glave · Post by **Fred Glave** » 6 Mar 2010 7:41 am

I've even considered buying 2 ultra light weight PSGs. Set one up for E9, and the other C6. Together, they would probably weigh more, but making 2 easy trips from the van to the job is more appealing than one very tough trip! The only issue is room on stage. A lap steel is a great option. A lot of the time, I don't need the two tunings in a single night. I've been researching the Carpsteel and the Stage One, and so far they look very appealing to me!

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 6 Mar 2010 12:11 pm

Go here;
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=178891
The S-10. You'll feel right at home!
Edited to add; Aw! Too bad! It's sold. But they do come up often.

Patrick Laffrat · Post by **Patrick Laffrat** » 6 Mar 2010 2:02 pm

WBS Student Basic 30lbs and great sound! (36 lbs with case)

Click

Phil Ajjarapu · Post by **Phil Ajjarapu** » 6 Mar 2010 2:43 pm

Lone star is making 6 string keyless psgs.

Bet they're light.

Jay Jessup · Post by **Jay Jessup** » 6 Mar 2010 6:33 pm

Stage One, designed by one of the most experienced builders with one of the best reputations in the business, Bruce Zumsteg, and now built by his apprentice who probably built most of the original run of Stage One's? I had one myself for exactly the reason you want one. The case they come in is smaller than a tenor sax case and I am guessing they are less than 30LBs in the case.

Fred Glave · Post by **Fred Glave** » 7 Mar 2010 8:33 am

Absolutely right. The Stage One is a spin-off of the Zumsteel, and the Carpsteel is made by Rains. Both very reputable and popular names. The Carpsteel weighs 22 lbs. out of the case, and 36 lbs. in the case. They both come with 3 pedals and 4 knees, and add ons, or mods are available, sometimes for no extra charge. They are both very inexpensive also. I think something like this is in my future.

Dan Tyack · Post by **Dan Tyack** » 8 Mar 2010 9:02 pm

Chuck Back at Desert Rose makes world class single necks at rediculously low prices. I can play any steel that I want and my Desert Rose is my 'go to' guitar.

Fred Glave · Post by **Fred Glave** » 9 Mar 2010 7:57 am

Desert Rose has a great reputation. But can you get one that weighs 21 lbs., and change your copedent anytime, and cost $900-$1,300? If so, then add it to the list.

Doug Seymour · Post by **Doug Seymour** » 10 Mar 2010 7:29 pm

My S10 keyless Excel can't be beat for everything including weight! Great C6 with 5 & 4 and a Bill Lawrence pickup! Also it came as a 3 & 5 from Scotty in April of 2000. Weighs 25# ready to play & 37# ready for travel! I traded Scotty a great S12 Mullen and after a year or so I sold my Zum D10 with BELA tuners on it! Never been the same steel picker.....even though I started on C6 copying Jerry Byrd's stuff and it's still my favorite! Today's folks have to have the other "Kroger neck" as Doug Jernigan called it!? I am in the process of finding a keyless GFI D10 which I think will be the one I'll play for the rest of my 19 years!?? I'm just 81 and can only play for myself, but I won't be happy till I have a D10 again!?? and Gene's keyless is the best in my opinion......just gave away another S12?
It was a GFI Ultra keyless......can't work for me as well as a D10!?? Played 10 string necks too long to know where to start on a S12 even though I love the Texas cats playing their Bb6th S12s! I just can't make the switch??

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