Lydian Chromatic Concept

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 8 Dec 2009 6:25 am

Wow! This is great stuff! Thanks so much to Jim, Mike, Robert, David, et al. for your knowledge!

Even as we type, I've got a BIAB track playing an Eb7 in various styles and working over the positions y'all suggested to familiarize myself with these ultra-cool pockets.

Don Drummer · Post by **Don Drummer** » 8 Dec 2009 11:51 am

Bump to the top for LCC

Don Drummer · Post by **Don Drummer** » 8 Dec 2009 11:51 am

Bump to the top for LCC

robert kramer · Post by **robert kramer** » 8 Dec 2009 8:50 pm

Db Lydian Dominant scale sequence to be played over Eb7
(C-6th w/ 3rd string C lowered to B)
Ascending:

Descending:

Post by **Dave Mudgett** » 8 Dec 2009 9:12 pm

These are very cool pockets indeed. Great stuff, thanks.

Mike Neer · Post by **Mike Neer** » 8 Dec 2009 10:50 pm

robert kramer wrote:Db Lydian Dominant scale sequence to be played over Eb7

Robert, that would be Eb Lydian Dominant, otherwise known as the Bb Jazz Minor (melodic minor ascending) scale.

Adam Kavanaugh · Post by **Adam Kavanaugh** » 9 Dec 2009 1:26 pm

Thanks for all the posts folks. They've been very helpful...

Scott Swartz · Post by **Scott Swartz** » 10 Dec 2009 12:09 pm

Not related to LCC, other than its also as far as possible from the "which steel sounds better" or "look at my shiny new geetar" threads....

Pentatonic Substitution

I found this on the web

http://jazzmando.com/pentatonic_ffcp.shtml

and then bought and am working from this book

http://www.amazon.com/Mel-Bay-presents- ... p_t_1#noop

A few quick examples

Cmaj7
Old School: C Pentatonic C D E G A
Upgrade: D Pentatonic D E F# A B
You get: 9, (3), +11, 6, 7
Relation to root: Plus one step

Cm7
Old School: Eb Pentatonic (Cm Pentatonic) Eb F G Bb C
Upgrade: Bb Pentatonic Bb C D F G
You get: (7), (1), 9, 11, (5)
Relation to root: Down one step (up m7)

C7
Old School: C Pentatonic C D E G A
Upgrade: Bb Pentatonic Bb C D F G
Better Upgrade: Gb Pentatonic (Alt chord) Gb Ab Bb Db Eb
You get: b5, b13, b7, b9, +9
Relation to root: Plus diminished 5th (tritone)

Cm7b5
Ab Pentatonic Ab Bb C Eb F
You get: b13, b7, (1), (3), 11
Relation to root: Plus m6

My C6 tuning has two D notes so this concept works great and lays out very logically, but pentatonics are pretty available on the standard C6 also of course.

Don Drummer · Post by **Don Drummer** » 10 Dec 2009 4:50 pm

OK, we are rollin' now.

Don D.

Mike Delaney · Post by **Mike Delaney** » 10 Dec 2009 5:37 pm

Good call posting the pentatonics in the thread. These are great tools also.