The Impracticable Gas "Guzzler"

Bent Romnes · Post by **Bent Romnes** » 6 Dec 2009 6:00 pm

It's amazing that this thread hasn't been closed already.
To me the answer is clear: Get off our dependency on non-renewable fuel, to the only renewable resource we have: Hydrogen. It is not impossible. We are smart and educated. We have to use our smarts to develop a cheaper method of making hydrogen. NOT use those same talents to cling on to our dependency of a dwindling resource.

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 7 Dec 2009 4:27 am

Bent,

Please cite any of the reasons that suggest this thread should be closed already. To be honest with you, I tend to resist and become riled at the very sight of bull-baiting, by silver spoon-fed verbose bullies who prognosticate the expected duration of a particular thread. It's a mean and despising way of life. Originally, I wanted to work in the direction of reducing the expenses of a round trip of weekend giggings. There are many counterplans that would greatly reduce the impact of the gas pump fiasco. Airing out disagreements and cleaning up the spills in matters that pertain solely to life as a steel guitarist, has been a matter of concern. I'm still witnessing what I feel is blatant disregard by contingencies who enjoy blowing smoke in the presence of nonsmokers. If I had the opportunity to vote on a law that prevents smokers from smoking 50' from exterior doorways, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment. If the state of perfection in a steel player's life were to be examined, I wouldn't go beyond learning of a smoking health issue in an individual's lifestyle.

Bent Romnes · Post by **Bent Romnes** » 7 Dec 2009 5:53 am

Bill, Because it is deteriorating into something about cars, mechanics, price of gas etc with beginning political overtones, and NOT steel guitar and steel players.
The expenses of weekend "giggings" is more and more in the background, by the looks of it about 10:1.
MO of course.

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 7 Dec 2009 6:25 am

Bent,

I welcome examples that may be set by others to improve the lives of steel guitarists. I will never strike from behind, or cast the first stone. Promise! Someone once believed: " Where there is a will there is a way."

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 7 Dec 2009 7:14 am

The ultimate fuel solution is solar power. There's plenty of hydrogen in the atmosphere but you have to use power to extract it. The sun, on the other hand, pours so much energy onto the earth that if it weren't for the ozone layer we would be fried.

The other solution is tidal power. As long as the moon stays in orbit it will always be in abundence.

Then there's wind power. The rotation of the earth drags the atmosphere around slightly behind it, so, even disregarding atmospheric pressure, there will always be wind.

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 7 Dec 2009 7:30 am

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Bent Romnes · Post by **Bent Romnes** » 7 Dec 2009 7:47 am

Alan, exactly!
What if everyone had a solar panel on their roof, fed the power into the grid and there would be an overflow of spare energy, from which we could make hydrogen cheaply.

Crowbear, I must admit that yours is indeed the ultimate solution

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 7 Dec 2009 7:57 am

Crowbear,

Thanks for creating laughter in the A.M. It's a wonderful conception of ridding the gasoline engine of the extra baggage that is solely responsible for low milage per gallon performances. When you are able to come to terms with the fact, that the glossy beauties that are strictly on "loan" to perceptual individuals, the weight reduction concept is a sure method of coralling would be pipe dreams of supposed oil moguls, should they exist. Actually, the weight of any medium sized motor vehicle could be reduced by redesigning, which could represent up to 1000 lbs. of sheet metal baggage relief.

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 7 Dec 2009 9:59 am

we have Bo Legg to thank fer that one

incidentally, here in France, there's a gov program similar to your CFK
it's a 1500$ rebate when you turn in a 10 year or older short fer a new one
surprisingly here, most cars that have been sold are economy models & not guzzlers

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 7 Dec 2009 10:15 am

Alan,

Your thoughts are very interesting. Please continue to share those exciting methods of creating the power needed to propel a given body of weights over long distances, excluding a dependency on the petroleum glut; worldwide.

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 7 Dec 2009 10:19 am

Bent-Bob will close a post if a none English word is used in a post. If its a word that he knows ,its ok to use it . Many music words are not English From Do,Ra, Mi,Fa So La Ti,Do, and the scales are not in English. If I used the word Pizza He would have understood it, but not the Italian word for burdocks. I'm sorry that was another topic.Joe

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 7 Dec 2009 10:44 am

Joe,

Have you taken into account the extra pollution the proud owners of "guzzlers" do in fact produce on a daily basis? It's the 10th reason for curbing the grumbling on empty panel warning; signifying, fill her up Joe. Each consideration in this thread can be traced to getting the equipment to the "gig" and returning safely to a warm bed.

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 7 Dec 2009 10:47 am

Bill- I drive a Kia,09,34 miles a gal.

Bent Romnes · Post by **Bent Romnes** » 7 Dec 2009 11:51 am

Bill Hankey wrote:Joe,

Have you taken into account the extra pollution the proud owners of "guzzlers" do in fact produce on a daily basis? It's the 10th reason for curbing the grumbling on empty panel warning; signifying, fill her up Joe. Each consideration in this thread can be traced to getting the equipment to the "gig" and returning safely to a warm bed.

Bill, the neat thing about hydrogen is that there is no pollution, only pure water vapor coming out the tailpipe.

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 7 Dec 2009 2:01 pm

Bent,

Thousands of the most technobabble gifted scientists are searching for consequences involved in the use of hydrogen. As far as I can see, our waters, land, and air are subjected to a gradual increase in pollution. Gas guzzling vehicles with leaky oil pans and gear boxes have been a major source of pollution. Hydrogen as it pertains to imbalances of fossiliferous energies needs to be studied. Those who play steel guitars and are in their prime of life, could be affected by the ongoing investigations. I can't imagine the study to be a major concern of September steel guitarists.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 7 Dec 2009 5:40 pm

Bumper cars.

They run on electricity from a wire matrix overhead, accessed from a pole. Electrify all the railway lines. Put an matrix of wire mesh over all the roads, and pick up the current from a pole. Electric trains don't waste energy carrying their fuel around with them, so why should cars ?

Change all the STOP signs to YIELD signs, so people can make rolling stops legally without having to dissipate all the momentum they've used fuel on.

Do away with 90% of traffic lights. Stop making cars wait in line to pay tolls. Install sensors in the road which turn traffic lights to green as you approach them. There are cars all over the world waiting at trafffic lights when there are no other cars coming.

Stephen Silver · Post by **Stephen Silver** » 7 Dec 2009 5:53 pm

What in crying out loud is a September steel guitarist?

Bent Romnes · Post by **Bent Romnes** » 7 Dec 2009 5:55 pm

Bill Hankey wrote: I can't imagine the study to be a major concern of September steel guitarists.

Important issues that affect the whole world should also be of concern to "september steel guitarists"
They as well as everybody else, are looking for cleaner fuel that pollutes less. This is what this discussion is all about, right, Bill?

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 7 Dec 2009 6:00 pm

Stephen Silver wrote:What in crying out loud is a September steel guitarist?

They're the guys who played two months ago. They're not allowed to play again for another nine months.

I imagine it's a reference to the expression "the September of his years", in other words, old fogies like me. The idea that old folks care less about the planet than youngsters is absurd. Youngsters are more likely to be the "I want it now"s, whereas older people are more likely to see long-term causes and effect.

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 7 Dec 2009 7:00 pm

Stephen,

The September steel guitarist represents the ultimate seasoned musician, who by reaching the first curve in his uptempo traveling lifestyle, must pull over to the side lane. He has peaked musically, and the blind curve in the road ahead requires easing into a more temperate zone, where thoughts of the future begin to materialize.

Shane Glover · Post by **Shane Glover** » 7 Dec 2009 9:01 pm

Thanks for the explanation Bill!
I thought it was a steeler born in Sept. I am a January Steel guitar player myself !!!

I know don't give up the day job!

Shane

Stephen Silver · Post by **Stephen Silver** » 7 Dec 2009 10:34 pm

Ah, Bill, now that makes such perfect sense....ya, right.

ack ack ack said Bill the Cat.

Bo Legg · Post by **Bo Legg** » 8 Dec 2009 3:04 am

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 8 Dec 2009 4:42 am

Bo Legg,

The young steel guitarist is openly expressing opposition to proper training within the confines of privacy. The roving underaged nontrainee reflects the mood of an inquisitive tomcat. I have one question; where is his daddy? $:\$

Bill Hankey · Post by **Bill Hankey** » 8 Dec 2009 4:57 am

Shane,

I'll wish you Happy Birthday in advance of your upcoming eventful day. As for keeping the day job, check with Josh Dubin if you ever come in contact with him. It would be interesting to learn if he has had a change of heart in matters relating to day jobs.