Bo-Bro Users? Question

Robbie Bossert · Post by **Robbie Bossert** » 5 Nov 2009 3:24 pm

Just got a Bo-Bro...Haven't had time to hook it up yet. However, it did come with specific directions on how to run the line through the effects loop on a Peavey amp. Does anyone out there have one of these units? Can you run it in line with other pedal effects? I use an RV-3 and a Chourse. Can I just run the Bo-Bro in line with those?

Robbie

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 5 Nov 2009 3:32 pm

I do, I run it right after my v ped, then into my echo. I usually turn off my echo and reverb when I use mine to get more 'dobroish".

I have also found it is less noisy with a battery versus a power adapter.

The key for me has been to slide a carbon matchbro bar without volume pedal pumps or use of pedals for chord changes. I also think more Shot Jackson than Jerry Douglas, as hammerons with open stings are difficult to sound like a dobro would with the same technique. YMMV as usual though. BTW I use the C6 neck skipping the a string most of the time.

Robbie Bossert · Post by **Robbie Bossert** » 5 Nov 2009 5:19 pm

SO Steve,,,You're just running all your effects in line and directly into the front of your amp...COrrect?

Robbie

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 5 Nov 2009 6:57 pm

yes, guitar > vped > bobro > echo> lo gain input of PVY112

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 5 Nov 2009 6:59 pm

On my steel king which has a foot switch for the effects loop, I run it into the effects loop, so I can tap it on and off with mute/tuner footpedal, but on my nash 112, its in the chain into the front of my amp

Jerry Roller · Post by **Jerry Roller** » 6 Nov 2009 7:30 am

Does anyone know if it is complete bypassed when turned off?
Jerry

Ben Jones · Post by **Ben Jones** » 6 Nov 2009 1:42 pm

since the Bo-Bro is a modified Boss GE7 I would guess it has what is called "buffered bypass" as all boss pedasls are buffered bypass.

you can learn more about buffered bypass on analogmans website

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 7 Nov 2009 8:16 am

I use mine before the volume pedal. I tried the effects loop suggestion on my NV400, and got a lot of noise and it sounded like crap. It sounds best to me getting the full output of my pickups feeding the unit as opposed to running it after the VP.

Robbie Bossert · Post by **Robbie Bossert** » 7 Nov 2009 8:48 am

Thanks for the duggestions guys. I tried running it in line with the rest f my effects last night. ZIt sounds great. However, I think I'll try richards idea tonight snd run it after my strobo-flip but befors the volume pedal. Do you guys have to adjust amp settings very much when switching from steell to Bo-Bro?

Robbie

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 8 Nov 2009 5:06 pm

Since I only use it once or twice a night (when I bother to hook it up at all), I just live with the tone I normally play at. I play with a pretty bright tone anyway. It sounds pretty decent. The bands I play with now are trying to talk me into playing my reso, but stages are small and feedback is going to be a problem, but I am working on that.

Ron Wright · Post by **Ron Wright** » 8 Nov 2009 7:39 pm

i've never heard one in action ,does it sound like a reso? worth the expense?

Howard Hughes · Post by **Howard Hughes** » 9 Nov 2009 11:04 am

Ron,
If You Go To Bobbe Seymour's Web Site at Steel Guitar Nashville, www.steelguitar.net and Look to the Left for Accessories and Find Bobro, Bobbe has a Video showing what It Sounds Like & How To Use the Unit. Is It Worth the Money?, I Think So, But Only You can answer that Question based on your Need!, I Hope this Help's, Good Luck, "Keep On Steelin" From The Land of OZ - Howie

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 9 Nov 2009 1:17 pm

I think if you play in a loud band it works, it captures the feel of a reso. I think the key is in the playing technique though, If you play the steel like a dobro, not pumping pedals and not using volume swells, and coupled with a wood or carbon bar it sounds right; more like a reso than an actual reso with a magnetic pickup in it.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 9 Nov 2009 1:37 pm

Next to a reso (side by side comparison), none of the simulators soung good. But in a loud band situation where there is no chance of the listeners hearing a real reso and a simulator within a close time frame, it works real well. Techniques has a lot to do with the illusion, but I don't agree with most people's recomendation of not using pedals with it. Consider what a Ped-A Bro is, a reso with pedals. Pedals work just as well as not using them. The trick is when to use them and when not to. I recently got the plastic bar and can honestly say I like using my BJS steel bar better. The plastic bar cuts the sustain way too much for my taste. When I compare it side by side with my Tut Taylor reso, the Tut sustains a lot longer than the PSG with the Bo-Bro and the plastic bar.

Now as to the question of whether or not the cost is worth it, my answer is YES. My choice would be a Bo-Bro which is considerably less expensive than a new (or sometimes even used) Goodrich Match-Bro (which the last time I looked was over $700 for the newest model). I used to own a Goodrich, and it was not that much better than the Bo-Bro to warrant the outrageous cost.

Robbie Bossert · Post by **Robbie Bossert** » 9 Nov 2009 2:23 pm

Thanks guys. I have it. I've been playing around with it and I like it a lot. It does the job. I am using a wooden bar. Seems to add to the overall effect. Covers those qu icky, little dobro fills quite nicely.

Thanks Again,

Robbie Bossert

Ron Wright · Post by **Ron Wright** » 9 Nov 2009 6:41 pm

Thx folks,points well taken,now if there realy were a santa claus

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 9 Nov 2009 8:48 pm

WHAT??? NO SANTA???? I guess it's time to go back on Prozac.

Ben Jones · Post by **Ben Jones** » 10 Nov 2009 6:40 am

Ron Wright wrote:Thx folks,points well taken,now if there realy were a santa claus

get a used boss ge7 for $40 with the sliders set in a comb pattern
-Santa

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 11 Nov 2009 11:32 am

I also have a GE-7 and have set the sliders as people suggest. It is not the same as the Bo-Bro sound. But, if you were only using it on a song or two, it could pass. If you were joining a bluegrass band, buy a reso.

Ernest Cawby · Post by **Ernest Cawby** » 13 Nov 2009 3:42 am

I go from guitar to BO BRo the foot pedal to DD3 then amp, when turned off it has no effect on sound seems completely out of the loop. I like it.

ernie

Steve Norman · Post by **Steve Norman** » 13 Nov 2009 10:09 am

I need to put mine in front of the vped, never thought of how the volume level into it could affect the effect!

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