David Hartley's music.......

Charles Curtis · Post by **Charles Curtis** » 30 Aug 2009 7:33 am

This morning, I'm in my room where I keep my psg, etc., on my computer listening to David's rendition of "Half Enough" and "You're Still The One". My wonderful, beautiful wife walks in to tell me that something was ready in the kitchen, but also comments that I'm playing it too loud. Whereupon I answered, "why don't you go back in the kitchen and you won't hear it"? I know I'll pay for this remark, but I think that my "space" should be respected. Of course I know that no one else has this problem ha.

Georg Sørtun · Post by **Georg Sørtun** » 30 Aug 2009 9:41 am

Why do you play too loud?

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 30 Aug 2009 10:05 am

Georg, define "too loud."

Georg Sørtun · Post by **Georg Sørtun** » 30 Aug 2009 10:29 am

Charles' wife just did...

...but, since you asked for my definition, my generic version goes something like this: "if it is louder than normal speech and you still feel like turning up the volume because you can't make out the details, then it's probably already too loud."

In more technical terms: "audio levels above 82 dbA over any length of time, are too loud, IMO."

Jack Francis · Post by **Jack Francis** » 30 Aug 2009 10:55 am

The old saying..."If it's too loud...your too old"..doesn't apply here. If it's too loud...I LOVE IT!!! (OH YES!!...and I"m PLENTY OLD, and hear just fine!!!)

I also put too much mayo and mustard on a hamburger, butter and salt on my popcorn and chocolate syrup on my ice cream...and what's more I don't recycle ANYTHING because global warming is nothing but a "CON"!!!

Charles Curtis · Post by **Charles Curtis** » 30 Aug 2009 1:36 pm

Jack, I've often done a lot to "excess", whether work or play. I'm in my mid-seventies and to celebrate my recent birthday I did eighty full push-up non-stop along with some weights. I'm a huge fan of Jack Lalanne, who I believe recently said, "I can't die it would spoil my image." Ha.

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 30 Aug 2009 2:35 pm

Here's Jack's baby picture.

Marc Friedland · Post by **Marc Friedland** » 30 Aug 2009 2:58 pm

Truly no disrespect intended - my opinion ONLY!
If you can even tell that a person is speaking, other than seeing their mouth moved, the music is not loud enough!
There is pretty much no chance my wife would ever say the music is too loud, unless of course she was singing with a band and the monitor's volume couldn't be raised enough.
Sometimes I practice psg with no amp at all and sometimes I practice at full volume, or anywhere in-between.
You wouldn't even want to know what volume I sometimes listen to music in my car, but I only do that when I'm sure I could see an emergency vehicle from far away, because I sure wouldn't hear it.
Marc

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 30 Aug 2009 5:08 pm

"if it is louder than normal speech and you still feel like turning up the volume because you can't make out the details, then it's probably already too loud."

With all due respect Georg, your definition, not mine.

Georg Sørtun · Post by **Georg Sørtun** » 30 Aug 2009 6:18 pm

Barry Blackwood wrote:With all due respect Georg, your definition, not mine.

Of course ... I'm quirky

OTOH: those values, although my generic version depends a bit on the volume of ones voice (mine is exceptionally low they say), are fairly close to officially recommended values for people who want to keep their sense of hearing unharmed and reasonably intact throughout their lives. I certainly wouldn't mind that, and haven't done too bad so far.

The most dynamic music - as experienced with classical music played in a concert hall, has a dynamic range of around 80db. Other music forms have a much smaller dynamic range, despite usually being spread from stages and wherever at much higher sound levels than what's acceptable in a concert hall. Thus, listening at levels much above 82dbA only raises the noise-floor to an audible level, and I can do without that.

Of course, if the intention is to add the sensation of ear-distortion to the mix, than that's clearly not loud enough. Personally I see no point in "over-excited ears", and avoid it in all situations possible. Can't turn down the volume on our farm machinery, but ear protection is an option ... that also works when others are in control of the volume.

Terry Kinnear · Post by **Terry Kinnear** » 30 Aug 2009 6:55 pm

you should have told her. huh ? ok I"ll turn it up.

Stuart Legg · Post by **Stuart Legg** » 31 Aug 2009 8:20 am

"I can still hear you"

Charles Curtis · Post by **Charles Curtis** » 31 Aug 2009 11:19 am

Terry, I'd rather step outside with the toughest guy in the bar than do that, ha. She's my honey.

Wayne Franco · Post by **Wayne Franco** » 31 Aug 2009 11:30 am

If I get too annoying I resort to head phones. Not the same but really quiet. About half the time she is traveling so I mostly play as loud as I want. Living in the middle of 5 acres with no one even close helps too.

David Hartley · Post by **David Hartley** » 31 Aug 2009 12:51 pm

Perhaps I record it too loud?

Colm Chomicky · Post by **Colm Chomicky** » 31 Aug 2009 3:01 pm

My wonderful, beautiful wife walks in to tell me that something was ready in the kitchen, but also comments that I'm playing it too loud. Whereupon I answered, "why don't you go back in the kitchen and you won't hear it"

My wife would have decked me with a cast-iron skillet in the kitchen!

Georg Sørtun · Post by **Georg Sørtun** » 31 Aug 2009 3:48 pm

David Hartley wrote:Perhaps I record it too loud?

Yeah, you are known to run out of bits from time to time

Could be worse though - most are...

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 1 Sep 2009 1:52 am

after reading this post, i put on one of David's videos & cranked it up
my sweetheart hollered across the house
" hey honey, you're playin' much better today ! "
Thanx David

Charles Curtis · Post by **Charles Curtis** » 1 Sep 2009 5:17 am

David, Please don't change anything that you are doing; it's all great. However I sure would like the tab for these two songs, hint,hint.

Mark Treepaz · Post by **Mark Treepaz** » 1 Sep 2009 10:23 am

Charles Curtis wrote:This morning, I'm in my room where I keep my psg, etc., on my computer listening to David's rendition of "Half Enough" and "You're Still The One". My wonderful, beautiful wife walks in to tell me that something was ready in the kitchen, but also comments that I'm playing it too loud. Whereupon I answered, "why don't you go back in the kitchen and you won't hear it"? I know I'll pay for this remark, but I think that my "space" should be respected. Of course I know that no one else has this problem ha.

So Charles, let me get this straight...you made this remark to her BEFORE you went into the kitchen to eat the food that she prepared for you??

Not real smart!

Tommy Shown · Post by **Tommy Shown** » 3 Sep 2009 8:52 pm

Every man has got to have his cave to go to.I got mine, but I share with my wife and the computer. She loves it when I play.I'll pick a pretty lick and she'll stop and say,"Do it again honey". Or,"I just love to hear you play,Tommy". Thank God For that.
Tommy Shown

Jack Francis · Post by **Jack Francis** » 4 Sep 2009 5:11 am

,
"Do it again honey"

AHH....Words we all love to hear.

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