Here's the rub ....

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 17 Jun 2009 7:24 am

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/161411 ... ylor.jhtml

Personally, I have nothing against T-Pain, Def Leppard, Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, or the B52s. That said, and even though some of them were present apparently at the request of one of country's latest singing sensations 19 year-old Taylor Swift, I don't believe any of them had any business at the Country Music Television Awards last night. I also don't think "Werewolves of London" belonged there, nor can I answer Kid Rock's rhetorical question, "What's more creative than a strip pole on a pontoon boat?" This would have all been fine I suppose in the context of say, an MTV awards show or the like, but what's any of it doing on the Country Music Television Awards show on CMT? Only my opinion, but this kind of genre-mixing just rubs me the wrong way, big time.

Alvin Blaine · Post by **Alvin Blaine** » 17 Jun 2009 7:44 am

So when was the last time "genre-mixing" didn't effect country music?
I'm guessing NEVER!!

Just think about the fact that, if Country Music wasn't so accepting of "genre-mixing", there would have never been hawaiian steel guitar in any of it!

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 17 Jun 2009 8:15 am

Barry,

Be honest. Did you really expect anything different out of the mixed up Nashville music industry? I think country music is past the point of no return in Nashville. Due to this allowing rock and rap acts to jump on the country wagon, country music is rapidly losing its identity.

When it's all over, and the music is lost, they won't have anyone to blame but themselves, and the ones that followed them down this path.

I've given up. There is no light at the end of the tunnel. Nashville does not seem to be interested in being the "Home Of Country Music" any longer.

Tracy Pitcox, and the other guys that have a dedication to country music, should go ahead and take over the remains and try to salvage what they can out of it.

Ken Pippus · Post by **Ken Pippus** » 17 Jun 2009 8:31 am

If there is one small ray of hope and light in this stampede to mediocrity, it's Brad Paisley. The guy can play, he can sing, much of what he records could be mistaken for country!! And he hires steel guitar players!!!

Anyway, one way to vote with the wallet is to buy his stuff, and I will continue to try to dissuade my daughters from buying any more "T-Swizzle."

YMMV

KP

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 17 Jun 2009 8:46 am

I tried to watch,but could'nt take too much,when I first turned it on,thought I was watching a rock and roll burlesque show,the ONLY thing I saw that reminded me of country was Dierks Bentley's DOG. These [so-called] country awards shows gets worse each year. Did hear a little steel here and there,Seems some of these[rock] country bands use steel hidden behind the screaming rock guitars so they can say,hey look we are country,we have a steel guitar on stage.DYK?BC.

Rick Campbell · Post by **Rick Campbell** » 17 Jun 2009 9:28 am

No disrespect, but Brad Paisley doesn't do anything for me, but by contrast, I guess he's closer to country than Def Leppard or Kid Rock....... but he's a long way from Darrell McCall and Jack Greene.

If you like the Nashville music, have at it. Again, my problem is not with the music, it's the referring to it as country music when it is not. I'm not going to say anymore about this. It's a waste of time and mental power.

Besides, I've got a new puppy to play with. He's a German Shepherd. Not a Collie that calls himself a German Shepherd. Not a Lab that got tired of being a Lab and tried to act like a German Shepherd. Not a German Shepherd that thinks playing with the cats makes him a cat. He's the real deal and happy to be what he is. Me too.

Robert Tripp · Post by **Robert Tripp** » 17 Jun 2009 9:35 am

Follow the money............not that I like it, but that is the harsh reality.

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 17 Jun 2009 10:26 am

If you like the Nashville music, have at it. Again, my problem is not with the music, it's the referring to it as country music when it is not.

Rick, exactly my point.

Alvin, what Rick said.

Alvin Blaine · Post by **Alvin Blaine** » 17 Jun 2009 10:51 am

My point is that it's not anything new.
It has gone on since the very first person played the very first country song. It was more than likely a cross between some Irish fiddle tune, English folk balled, and some slave inspired gospel tune, but they called it a COUNTRY SONG.

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 17 Jun 2009 11:14 am

i'm on barry's side!

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 17 Jun 2009 12:28 pm

Why was it named COUNTRY MUSIC in the first place?

John Steele (deceased) · Post by **John Steele (deceased)** » 17 Jun 2009 12:44 pm

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 17 Jun 2009 1:27 pm

Alvin Blaine wrote:My point is that it's not anything new.
It has gone on since the very first person played the very first country song. It was more than likely a cross between some Irish fiddle tune, English folk balled, and some slave inspired gospel tune, but they called it a COUNTRY SONG.

Alvin you are right in what you're saying,thats one forum or roots of it.

My Dad always said " Give me a good Tarantella, thats real country music".
My point is ,who has real ownership of country music? If you call it country and are saying that people are wrong calling it country music just because they play a different forum or different roots or have no roots of their music, you are wrong saying it. It's their country music and have the right to call it Country Music. Joe

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 17 Jun 2009 1:44 pm

It's their country music and have the right to call it Country Music. Joe

Using that logic, Joe, I guess the Rolling Stones and their fans could call what they do country music - after all, they have the right.

Marlin Smoot · Post by **Marlin Smoot** » 17 Jun 2009 2:08 pm

This is the same conversation that has taken place for decades. Just change the artist names...

Jeff Evans · Post by **Jeff Evans** » 17 Jun 2009 2:23 pm

Give me a good Tarantella . . .

Suzetta Boyle sings a Tarantella.

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 17 Jun 2009 2:49 pm

Wait a minute. CMT stands for Country Music Television? Who knew?

Fearless Leader had RBTV - Really Bad Television. I just assumed that CMT was a similar acronym.

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 17 Jun 2009 3:36 pm

Barry Blackwood wrote:
It's their country music and have the right to call it Country Music. Joe
Using that logic, Joe, I guess the Rolling Stones and their fans could call what they do country music - after all, they have the right.

What is COUNTRY MUSIC? If the Rolling Stones had a steel player and sang about a train that would make it country, or a leak in your tire and have a bad week. Looks like there's no room for liberals in country music

Joe

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 17 Jun 2009 3:46 pm

We've heard all this before, and we'll keep hearing it again and again!
I sure didn't agree with all the winners, but I didn't vote either.

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 17 Jun 2009 5:31 pm

Rick,you are right,that's what gets me to bitching calling this very poor attempt at 70's rock,[country] For the one's that like it and think it's country,THAT'S FINE.They have EVERY right to do so,Just wish they would find another label for it, CCR,the Eagles,Poco,etc was far closer to country music than anything out there today,And yes that beautiful pup of your's is FAR more important than who won what on this satirical comedy called the CMA. The only channel I can find any REAL country on is the RFD CHANNEL. I remember when country music died in NV,it was when they killed the old NASHVILLE NETWORK,Has not been ANY country music in [MUSIC CITY ?] SINCE. You can see the real thing on broadway,NOT on the Pop and Rock show called the GOO. DYK?BC.

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 18 Jun 2009 12:48 pm

Joe Miraglia wrote:

What is COUNTRY MUSIC?

All I can say is, Joe, I knows it when I hears it.

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 18 Jun 2009 3:14 pm

CMT is a rock station trying to steal the country label. Country people aren't listening.

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 19 Jun 2009 1:34 am

The CMT awards: Where aging rockers go when they're no longer relevant in their genre.

"Love Shack" on the CMT awards......it was funny, you have to admit. As they say, one person's tragedy can sometimes be another person's comedy.

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 19 Jun 2009 3:41 am

I thought it was pretty funny, and Taylor slinging her head about 15 times did make me appreciate country music even more.

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 19 Jun 2009 5:09 am

Theresa Galbraith wrote:I thought it was pretty funny, and Taylor slinging her head about 15 times did make me appreciate country music even more.

The title of this thread is funny too. Sounds like one for "Dnt Undrstnd "