who calls the solos?
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Dayna Wills
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who calls the solos?
Sometimes the band looks to me to call solos. I automatically leave it to the bandleader. Whenever I sit in with strangers, I ask who will be calling the solos. I prefer to count my own tempos, tho.
Is there a rule among musicians and guests? What if the guest is himself a bandleader and is used to calling solos? Should he clear it with the bandleader first or, if he starts to call solos, should the bandleader be polite and let him?
Is there a rule among musicians and guests? What if the guest is himself a bandleader and is used to calling solos? Should he clear it with the bandleader first or, if he starts to call solos, should the bandleader be polite and let him?
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Just let everyone play at the same time. Just Kidding Dana. If the band has the song worked out already (maybe for their own band) then I think it should be left to the band to just take care of the leads as they do them in their own band. If it's just a mix of musicians who don't play together all the time, then I think the singer should call out the solos. That's probably where the backup musician's attention is more focused on at the time.
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I think you should do it whatever way you want to, but I would make it clear to the guest how we want to handle it. I don't think there's any absolute "rule", and have seen bands do it differently. The worst thing is to leave it to chance - then everybody may well wind up playing over each other. I would generally let a guest singer call solos if they want to, but YMMV.
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My favorite is sitting in with a band where the leader hands me a solo and the guitar player plays it anyway.
In Blueground Undergrass, some of our arrangements are worked out, but mostly the leader nods at us... occasionally one will be up for grabs and we're all giving it to each other! When somebody sits in it's usually just a fun free-for-all. It really comes down to listening very well to each other.
In Blueground Undergrass, some of our arrangements are worked out, but mostly the leader nods at us... occasionally one will be up for grabs and we're all giving it to each other! When somebody sits in it's usually just a fun free-for-all. It really comes down to listening very well to each other.
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If the band is any good (which is just a euphemism for "very experienced"), you don't have to do anything but look their way, or step back from the mike. You know your job, and they know theirs. "Calling" solos might only mess up something they've already worked out having done the song a few hundred times behind someone else.
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I was playing with a thrown-together band one night and, at one point, the singer said "C Sharp" over the mike when he wanted me to play a solo and half the band changed keys.
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I believe the singer is like the pilot of an aircraft, and should know where he/she want's to go. If I'm just sitting in with a band, and don't know much about their arrangements, after I sing a verse and a chorus, I'll signal them to "turn it around", and come back and finish the song. No one likes to be in a "train wreck", and sometimes it is best for everyone to not spend a lot of time on me.
However, If I'm setting in with a band I'm familiar with, I'll call the "rides" (solo's) and feature them, call their names over the mike, and give them a time to shine.
AND, if I'm singing with one of the six or seven bands I normally work with here in the Fort Worth area, I'll call the Rides on the songs I sing, and even take one myself if it fits in the song. If I'm not singing, I watch the singer to call fills, or solos. One thing I see some folks do that is not always the best thing to do, is have someone play in the "Wrong" place. By that I mean, If the song is let's say, "Big Diamonds", let two rides play. (steel/fiddle) they play the verse. Then come back and sing either the verse or chorus, and go out. That's plenty, and the Piano/Guitar players shouldn't care. (That's not the best example, but some songs get lopsided if there's three solos) If it's "Workin' Mans Blues", let everyone have a little of it and it's o.k.
From a musicians stand point, there's a time to play, and every one should have a chance to "Solo" sometime in the set, but the song should come first and if everyone dosen't get a ride on every song that's ok too. Short answer: If the Singer calls the fills, and solos, it's allright by me.
However, If I'm setting in with a band I'm familiar with, I'll call the "rides" (solo's) and feature them, call their names over the mike, and give them a time to shine.
AND, if I'm singing with one of the six or seven bands I normally work with here in the Fort Worth area, I'll call the Rides on the songs I sing, and even take one myself if it fits in the song. If I'm not singing, I watch the singer to call fills, or solos. One thing I see some folks do that is not always the best thing to do, is have someone play in the "Wrong" place. By that I mean, If the song is let's say, "Big Diamonds", let two rides play. (steel/fiddle) they play the verse. Then come back and sing either the verse or chorus, and go out. That's plenty, and the Piano/Guitar players shouldn't care. (That's not the best example, but some songs get lopsided if there's three solos) If it's "Workin' Mans Blues", let everyone have a little of it and it's o.k.
From a musicians stand point, there's a time to play, and every one should have a chance to "Solo" sometime in the set, but the song should come first and if everyone dosen't get a ride on every song that's ok too. Short answer: If the Singer calls the fills, and solos, it's allright by me.
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Jim's group works very smoothly.
In one group I play with, no one calls the solos, and they don't play or rehearse enough to have pre-planned arrangements. It is very frustrating. I have begged the singers to call them, but they get caught up in their own thoughts and forget. They'll just step away from the mike and it's anyone's guess as to what will happen.
In one group I play with, no one calls the solos, and they don't play or rehearse enough to have pre-planned arrangements. It is very frustrating. I have begged the singers to call them, but they get caught up in their own thoughts and forget. They'll just step away from the mike and it's anyone's guess as to what will happen.
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Most groups I've worked with the soloists work it out between themselves. It's irritating to me to play the same arrangement several times, then one night the singer calls your name, or another players name, to take a ride when you have an arrangement worked out. I don't like playing the same licks every night, but surprising the band is asking for a train wreck.
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One bad scenario is when you're playing something like "The Bottle Let Me Down" and you have a lead guitarist and steel player who knows when and what's supposed to be played by whom and a singer calls the steel when the lead's supposed to be playing and vise versa.
In one band I was in we had a fiddle and we'd do the break for "Together Again" with steel guitar. One guy was sitting in with us and wanted to do the song. When the break came he called the fiddle player but we went to the steel anyway!....JH in Va.
In one band I was in we had a fiddle and we'd do the break for "Together Again" with steel guitar. One guy was sitting in with us and wanted to do the song. When the break came he called the fiddle player but we went to the steel anyway!....JH in Va.
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