What Kind of Guitar is this? ...half steel half dobro

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Thanks Brett, Mike & Crowbear,
Carson managed Mark Wills after Keith.
Then Carson managed Alan Jackson, while writing songs and getting alot of songs recorded. Carson wrote George Strait's "This Could Be The Best Day Of My Life"!
He's done well for himself, I believe he's Billy Currington's Producer todate. :)
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I'm curious as to why the Pedabro didn't catch on more (why so few were built)? Was it due to lack of general market interest? Manufacturing costs? Selling price?
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Theresa Galbraith wrote:Thanks Brett, Mike & Crowbear,
Carson managed Mark Wills after Keith.
Then Carson managed Alan Jackson, while writing songs and getting alot of songs recorded. Carson wrote George Strait's "This Could Be The Best Day Of My Life"!
He's done well for himself, I believe he's Billy Currington's Producer todate. :)
Theresa, last year, Joe Nichols recorded a song that Carson wrote called "Another Side Of You", and it was Joe's first single on Joe's "Real Things" record. Wonder if Carson still plays steel in addition to writing songs.

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Post by David Doggett »

Mark Trzepacz wrote:I'm curious as to why the Pedabro didn't catch on more...
My guess is it was too much of a one-trick pony - pedal steel licks with a Dobro sound. Nobody would want that trick all night long. And it is a mighty big and expensive piece of equipment to bring along for those few moments when you want that. There are some devices for pedal steel that come fairly close to that sound. Or you could just bring along a real reso.
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Post by Theresa Galbraith »

The key word, comes fairly close! :)

It cost alot to make and with steel guitar orders in addition. Dad decided to stop building them.
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Thanks. I was just wondering.
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Odd. I went back to have another look/listen to the You Tube video and received a message that the video is no longer available as it has been removed.
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Post by Alan Miller »

Arch ,
I was thinking the same thing , the concert was at the Royal Albert hall London he was touring with his "Storms of life" album.
I still have the video, unfortunately some of the sound is now deteriorating, the name of the band that Randy introduced was "nashville", great band.
The steel player was superb and he had the first Pedabro Id ever seen .
Maybe Brett will come up with a name for us.
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Thanks, Alan. I was starting to doubt my own memory for a bit, there.

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Post by Paddy Long »

Mark I guess some gadgets like the Goodrich Matchbro, and the Marrs/Fluger RGS have become more popular because of the 'cost' issue.
Jeff Surratt at Show Pro does a double neck guitar called the "CatBro" which has a rear neck setup as a "pedal dobro" ... while this doesn't have a resonator I believe it probably has the processor that the RGS uses to simulate a dobro sound, and it's probably tuned to the same D9th which appears popular on the Franklin Pedabro ...it has 3 pedals for the dobro neck and I'm sure some of the knees work on that neck as well.
That would be a good option if you didn't play any C6th but wanted something in addition to the standard E9th setup.
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Post by Steve Norman »

Man that was beautiful. Is he doing that with the A pedal 2drop/raise?

Also does anyone have a sound clip of a peda-bro? Ive never heard one that I know of.
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Steve if you get Mike Johnsons CD you can hear him play one on that .. he also has a 2 track gospel CD which features his Pedabro - outstanding stuff.
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Post by Tony Dingus »

Steve, Paul Franklin has a double cd out called "Looking Back" that has 4 or 5 of his older albums on it. One of the albums was called "Akoostix" which is pedal dobro and steel. A great album itself. Get the cd, you won't be sorry.

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Post by Bo Borland »

The is an album by Mike Auldridge, Jim Heffernan, and Hal Rugg called "Resocasters" from just a couple years ago. Hal plays a bunch of hot stuff on the Pedabro.
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David Doggett wrote:pedal steel licks with a Dobro sound. Nobody would want that trick all night long.
What if you look at it the other way: Dobro sound with available pedal steel licks? Surely you're not suggesting no one would want a Dobro sound all night long. A few Dobro players might take exception! :wink:
My guess is it was too much of a one-trick pony...And it is a mighty big and expensive piece of equipment to bring along for those few moments when you want that. There are some devices for pedal steel that come fairly close to that sound. Or you could just bring along a real reso.
Or you could have a doubleneck like the one that started this thread. Sweet!

***I know, the marketplace hasn't made this cool idea, doubleneck or otherwise, commercially viable. More's the pity.***
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Post by David Doggett »

Brint Hannay wrote:What if you look at it the other way: Dobro sound with available pedal steel licks? Surely you're not suggesting no one would want a Dobro sound all night long. A few Dobro players might take exception! :wink:
Well, maybe in a bluegrass or acoustic group they like Dobro all night. But I don't think many bluegrassers want to hear traditional Dobro start sounding like pedal steel. They are too purest. And I can't imagine many people wanting Dobro rather than electric steel all night long in country music. Isn't that why everybody switched over to lap and console steels and then pedal steel over the years?

Just seems like pedal steel licks with Dobro sound are a very specialized thing for a few special moments in a show. And most steelers wouldn't be willing to pay the price and lug that big extra piece of gear around. Maybe in a few big shows with a big budget and roadies, or in the studio. So, I'm just saying it doesn't seem like the sort of thing that would catch on with the weekend steelers that are the bread and butter for a manufacturer.
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Post by Gary C. Dygert »

Franklin's Looking Back is sold out on the website, with no plans to issue more. Bummer. :cry:
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I happen to have a pedabro no 16 I think .I bought it in 92 when I was doing a lot of sessions here in Ireland ... nearly all the Nashville stuff had pedabro at that time and I had a few bob then and I thought that things were moving in that direction . When I took it to studios here it was not well received as most country songs recorded here are very traditional . They kept asking me for the old sound .I played it on a Daniel O'Donnell album ...the title track ..'.Follow your Dream' the album did about 500,000 sales so at least somebody heard it . I bought another 6 string dobro and use that mostly now and only use the pedabro about 2 times a year for sessions .I thought I could get some sessions doing Folk music which is big stuff here but I don't really move in those circles so that never happened either. I still think the instrument has a lot of potential and I always bring it along on a crossover session along with my other assorted slide instruments just in case.
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Post by John Bechtel »

I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the Double-Neck w/Ped-a-Bro played on an early Lorrie Morgan Video! :)
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Post by Kyle Everson »

Theresa Galbraith wrote:He's done well for himself, I believe he's Billy Currington's Producer todate. :)
Theresa, he is definitely still producing Billy, and also held the reins on the new Easton Corbin album that's coming out. Your bro did some great stuff on that one too ;)

BC told me the same story about Mark Wills.
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I can't wait to buy Easton Corbin's new CD! :)
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I had two Ped-a-Bros, now I have one because I sold one to Kevin.

THe other one isn't going anywhere, so don't ask. :)
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I have a Ped A Bro and a Pedal Dobro......



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