No Texas Steel Jamboree

Jeff Coffell · Post by **Jeff Coffell** » 30 Sep 2002 7:21 pm

Not for me. I'm trying to quit smoking as you read this. I'll be damned if, God willing, I can kick these things, will I ever join all of the hipocrits that go out in smokey bars and play at night, then bitch about a little smoke at a steel show. No, on second thought, I'm probably wrong about that. The majority of the bitchers are probably bedroom bandits and couldn't hang with a live band any way.

If I sound pissed it's because I am. this is supposed to be a free country, Ha more damn freedom in russia these days.

If people would just stop and think what they breath out in the great so called FRESH AIR out of doors, you would laught at yourself over this second hand smoke thing. I guarantee the air you breath at work and outside cleaning your yard is just as harmful if not more so than SECOND HAND SMOKE.

I know nobody really will miss my little no body self at the tsga jamboree but I damn sure won't be there. I've already e-mailed Mr. Hallford and told him to take me out of the association immediatly if not sooner. I also got on the phone and called a couple of friends, one who does not smoke cigs. and they are gonna quit the club also.

I hate that this has happed, I really enjoyed the Texas show better than any of the shows.

IF CHARLIE NORRIS WAS STILL PRESIDENT I BET THIS WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. I want them to put Charlie out of the ballroom for lighting up. I bet that will never happen, I'm sure he won't be there either.

WHAT A JOKE THIS HAS BECOME.

I am not trying to damage this Club. I Love the TSGA but I have to make a stand on this one.

Jeff PLUMB COUNTRY Coffell

Killeen TX

ZUMSTEEL,NASHVILLE 1000,PROFEX II, BBE 462

I misspelled Jamboree in the topic. I really feel like a dumbass now. I didn't know how to go back and change it, only knew how to edit the text message[This message was edited by Jeff Coffell on 30 September 2002 at 08:27 PM.]

Jeff Coffell · Post by **Jeff Coffell** » 30 Sep 2002 7:25 pm

Sorry so pissed I couldn't spell

J A M B O R E E

Rick Garrett · Post by **Rick Garrett** » 1 Oct 2002 3:09 am

Hey Jeff, Im a smoker and I understand where you're coming from and all but I dont plan to let it keep my from going to the Jamboree. Shoot man theres a bar down the hall where we can fire one up if we want. Like you I dont give a damn about being told what to do or how to do anything but I don't mind extending courtesy to those who deserve it. Now those who dont deserve it dont get it and can kiss my a$$.

Rick Garrett
P.S. This was edited because my speeling stinks at 6am. [This message was edited by Rick GM on 01 October 2002 at 04:10 AM.]

Charles Tilley · Post by **Charles Tilley** » 1 Oct 2002 5:40 am

For someone to object and be offended by a choice made by the majority present and voting in an organization is all well and good unless they take this to all their friends for support and try to ruin a good organization. We are not to cause anyone to take our offence on a subject. Everyone has a right to make up his own mind about a situation that concerns them.

Some of my friends don't like catfish so when they are at my home and l serve catfish, l always have something for them they like. I don't try to MAKE them like and eat catfish just because l like it.

Let each one make up their own mind about things and don't try to get a bandwagon going in your favor just because you don't like something. State your opinion, but let them have their own.

Going to a place to smoke where you will not annoy someone or cause a health problem with them doesn't seem like too much to ask. It's really not that far to go. I have seen people in malls with masks on to protect themselves. Perhaps we should issue masks for ALL those who attend the Dallas show so the smokers can have their pleasure. Then we would loose a lot more that the irritated smokers.

As someone has already said, TSGA is not the one in control of wheather you attend or not--------- your smoking is.

I mean no dis-respect and am not trying to create any enemies. I just have a right to express my feelings and l ask no-one to get on my bandwagon because l don't have one.

Charles Tilley

Marty Pollard · Post by **Marty Pollard** » 1 Oct 2002 6:24 am

I understand Randy Reimer has bandwagons for sale...

Douglas Hudson · Post by **Douglas Hudson** » 1 Oct 2002 6:40 am

I am a smoker also. I attended the steel guitar jamboree in Dallas and I had thought that there was no smoking in the ball room anyway. I did smoke in the lounge and bar areas, where it was allowed, by the hotel itself. If I have to go outside to smoke, so be it. The Dallas show was my first jamboree and definatly not my last. I am not happy with the laws either, but I do plan to attend the Dallas show in 2003. Its to bad that things like this can have persons so up in arms. I love my steel guitar! I also wish that I could quit smoking, and I have really tried many times. I know that soon the rest of the US will become smoke free in bars as California has become. Jeff think about this again,, do you love the steel guitar more than smoking? We smokers are becoming the minority anyway. I personally would be upset if I had been smoking around someone who was sensitive to it, and it had caused that person to have difficulty breathing. My good friend who brought me to the Dallas show has been long battling nicotine addiction. Due to this when I rode in the same vehicle with him I could not smoke, because he has such adverse reactions to it. The drive to Dallas from my home was 7 hours. We also stayed in the same room, (non-smoking). I just got up and rode down to the smoking area for my coffee and smoke. The neat thing about that was I ran into many neat people that sat down and discussed many things about the steel guitar. Actually I was able to meet more people due to being able to sit down away from the hustle and bustle of the showrooms and the ballroom. I had a wonderful time in Dallas!

Jeff Coffell · Post by **Jeff Coffell** » 1 Oct 2002 9:06 am

Everyone keeps saying majority vote. My Ass. To get a majority vote you have to allow the whole club to vote. I didn't recieve any ballot.

And do I Love steel more than smoking? That's not the point. This thing was NOT voted on by the entire club only the few that attended the meeting. It was never mentioned in the News letter. It is supposed to be a news letter ya know. Etc etc etc. It was not handled properly. That's why I'm upset.

This was not handled in a democratic way. Kinda sounds like George Bush saying we're going to war when he actually don't have the sole power to do that without a MAJORITY approval of the ENTIRE body.

GET MY POINT???????

Earl Yarbro · Post by **Earl Yarbro** » 1 Oct 2002 9:15 am

Jeff, wish you would reconsider and c'mon to the Jamboree. I know this was a hard decision for the board to make, but they felt it was the right thing to do. I haven't met you personally, but feel I know you somewhat by your posts here on the forum. If you don't come, you will be missed. regards, Earl

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 1 Oct 2002 10:47 am

To not attend the Jamboree because you feel you just won't be able to see much due to the fact that you must smoke constantly is a decision made with acknowledgement of a physical dependency. For that, I'm sure we're sorry but it is something you can try to change.

To not attend the Jamboree, and especially to urge others not to attend the Jamboree, because you can no longer light up whenever and wherever you wish, is throwing a temper tantrum, IMHO.

What I don't dig are these veiled *threats* about getting some smokers to boycott the show.

Do you really think the TSGA will be *punished* by the non-attendance of a few people? And if you do, do you really think that you should hurt the good things the TSGA does because a decision was made not to cater to your dependencies?

Y'all must be thinking "Wouldn't it be great if the TSGA was damaged because it doesn't allow smoking in the concert room..." Yeah, right. Maybe next time there won't be a show. Wouldn't THAT be great, huh?

And to you guys who think it hypocritical to work in places that smokers congregate but not want to be around it during my entire life, lemme tell ya this: I work in places like that all the time, not because I WANT to, but because that's where MY JOB TAKES ME!!! If I want to stay with the bands I play with, I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, okay?

You ever do things at your jobs that you'd rather not do, but went ahead anyway because you needed the work and the money?

I thought so.

This whole thing is getting really silly, IMHO. Look, if y'all want to experience the convention you'll attend the show, go to the bar or the parking lot for a fix and then you'll come back and enjoy the music and the fellowship. If y'all want to chain smoke at your house and keep your marbles in their little sack, I'm sure that's okay too. There will be plenty of marbles for the rest of us to play with.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 1 Oct 2002 11:30 am

"I guarantee the air you breath at work and outside cleaning your yard is just as harmful if not more so than SECOND HAND SMOKE."

That might be true, I have never had it tested. I do know that the air in this part of our great state SMELLS much better than second hand smoke.

Both of my parents were heavy smokers, when I was growing up. My father is now dying of lung cancer. Chemo-therapy and prayer are the only things keeping him alive. I was subjected to their second hand smoke for about 20 years. I certainly hope and pray that I don't follow in Dad's footsteps.

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Lee, from South Texas

Doyle Huff · Post by **Doyle Huff** » 1 Oct 2002 11:30 am

The hotel in Tulsa where we hold our jamboree every year does not allow smoking in the building anywhere. I don't knoe if that keeps some people from coming to the showw or not. If so, they missed some good shows because they didn't want to go outside to smoke. Am I right Herb?

John Rickard · Post by **John Rickard** » 1 Oct 2002 11:45 am

Right On Herb!
JR

Joey Ace · Post by **Joey Ace** » 1 Oct 2002 12:07 pm

"I'm trying to quit smoking as you read this"

Great move, for you and your family!

Ray Jenkins · Post by **Ray Jenkins** » 1 Oct 2002 12:39 pm

John Rickard just enjoyed a smoke free Steel Jam.He said so.Right John Earl?

Ray

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Steeling is still legal in Arizona

Howard Whittington · Post by **Howard Whittington** » 1 Oct 2002 1:03 pm

I think if you are to be fair,,,folow Scottys
lead and make 1/2 of the room non smoking and the other 1/2 smoking..
I think it works good for ISGC and should work for TSGA. and Im a non smoker.
Mabey it is not really good to make the smokers mis some of th great pickers. They did pay the same price to see them.......
JUST A THOUGHT

Danny Naccarato · Post by **Danny Naccarato** » 1 Oct 2002 1:19 pm

Don't want to get off topic here, but to correct a mis-conception. The President (USA, not TSGA

) as Commander-in-Chief, has the constitutional authority to commit troops to war, solely at his discretion. Technically he should declare a State of War, but that hasn't been done since Pearl.

Don't know if he smokes......

[This message was edited by Danny Naccarato on 01 October 2002 at 02:20 PM.]

John Rickard · Post by **John Rickard** » 1 Oct 2002 1:48 pm

I started chewing "Nicorette" gum last week, I'm wearing the "Patch" this week, and should be smoking "Lucky Strikes" by the end of the month!

JR

Just Kiddin'[This message was edited by John Rickard on 01 October 2002 at 02:50 PM.]

Kenny Davis · Post by **Kenny Davis** » 1 Oct 2002 1:49 pm

Having a half-smoking section would be pretty cool...If you make it like the airport's smoking rooms - Glass walls to the ceiling!

Anne Marie O Keeffe · Post by **Anne Marie O Keeffe** » 1 Oct 2002 2:00 pm

I started chewing "Nicorette" gum last week, I'm wearing the "Patch" this week

Don't put yourself through all that misery John. I tried all that too and it didn't work so just over three years ago I took myself off to a Hypnotherapist and that worked. You know, fresh air smells wonderful.
I don't really know what all the fuss is about banning smoking at steel shows. Just about every where is smoke free now so one more place isn't going to matter much. I'm not one of these "born again" non smokers. My hubby smokes and I leave him to it. He wants to quit and I will encourage him when he tries but I don't see any point in nagging him about it.
Maybe a ten minute "smoke break" after each act ends would be a good idea, that way the smokers would have time to dash off and have a cigarette and be back in time to hear the next act and not miss any part of any show.

John Rickard · Post by **John Rickard** » 1 Oct 2002 2:29 pm

Anne,
Look closer, I don't smoke, I'm trying to start!
JR

Dr. Hugh Jeffreys · Post by **Dr. Hugh Jeffreys** » 1 Oct 2002 2:31 pm

Hi Jeff: By all means, I truly hope you'll re-consider and try giving up smoking once more---for you and your family: I quit when I was 29. It can be done; I did it without a crutch; at autopsy, "smoked lungs" look grey to black; healthy ones are pinkish and healthy looking. I know it's hard, but please give it another try; I've seen "my share" of cancer both in family and otherwise. Do it for ole number 1! Good luck, HJ

Billy Easton · Post by **Billy Easton** » 1 Oct 2002 2:35 pm

I was gonna go to a SMOKER'S CONVENTION but they said that I couldn't bring my pedal steel, so I think I will just not go, and stay home and play my steel. I think that would be a lot more fun anyway.

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Billy Easton
Casa Grande, AZ
Where the Sun Always Shines

Jeff Coffell · Post by **Jeff Coffell** » 1 Oct 2002 3:51 pm

Well, some very interesting remarks. First, Herb you need to go back and read my post again. I am not in any way trying to hurt the TSGA and as I said, I'm sure they won't miss me. And I didn't call my friends to try and boycott the show. I simply called and told them what I read on this forum. They decided to stay away without any help from me.
And Herb, don't you think everyone is going a little too far in telling us FREE AMERICANS what we can do where???? The government has already hurt the bar business so bad that a good gig can hardly be found any more. I'm for DUI laws, I don't even drink but You know as well as I, a .08 blood alcohol level is totally rediculous. Any man women or child can funtion properly in every way with that amount of alcohol in their system,. Sure hurts what you do for a living don't it?

Oh yeah, you guys try fighting your way through a standing room only crowd in a wheel chair to go out and take a break when the urge hits you to take a smoke and see how you like it. NOT LOOKING FOR SYMPATHY HERE, just trying to make a point.

And for the professor of government,,look back in our history and see if any president has ever sent our men to war without congressional approvement.

Boy, I guess I'm really pissin some people off on this one. Didn't mean for it to happen that way. Just want some input to see if I'm the only asshole out here that feels our government and other organizations are pushing the limit on telling us what we can do and where we can do it.

Jeff

Danny Naccarato · Post by **Danny Naccarato** » 1 Oct 2002 4:12 pm

Oh man, I knew after posting that, I shouldn't have. Anyway, have a read here if you're interested. They're still debating, we for dang sure won't settle it here, so let's drop it

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The Professor

[This message was edited by Danny Naccarato on 01 October 2002 at 05:14 PM.]