Do you really need to have a double neck guitar

Duane Reese · Post by **Duane Reese** » 26 Mar 2008 7:07 pm

The best analogy I can think of to the issue is comparing steel guitar to utensils: an E9 single neck is like a spork, a U-12 is like a swiss army knife with a fork and spoon on board, and a double neck is like having separate forks and spoons. Combining two jobs on one neck, or utensil, makes you have to carry less stuff, but when you have two that are focused on their respective jobs, they can do a better job...

Stuart Legg · Post by **Stuart Legg** » 26 Mar 2008 7:43 pm

Greg Simmons you and Doug are telling me that E9 buys the groceries. That must be true because it seems that most good E9 players are fat (sorry I should have said hippohorizontal)

Bo Legg · Post by **Bo Legg** » 26 Mar 2008 7:58 pm

Duane Reese Your spork, spoon and fork thing caused me not to be able to look at my d-10 without seeing forks, spoons and sporks. And all this talk about E9 buying the groceries has made me hungry and I'm too fat to play harmonica so I tossed it and I'm back on the Steel. If fat is a sign of a good E9 player I ought to be in the hall of fame.

Duane Reese · Post by **Duane Reese** » 26 Mar 2008 7:58 pm

Roger Shackelton · Post by **Roger Shackelton** » 26 Mar 2008 8:14 pm

I feel those old GEEZERS(vetrans):) who have played E-9th only or D-10 only should take a serious look at a keyless S-12U. (Williams,GFI or Sierra, etc.) I believe in the case, they weigh about 40 lbs. You don't have to feel handicapped without the 9th D string. Step up and play one or all of them at the ISGC in late August in St. Louis. You will never know unless you try it for yourself. Jeff Newman showed us how it can be done. Now prove it to yourself. There is a small learning curve, but you just might surprise yourself.

Roger

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 26 Mar 2008 9:01 pm

Stuart Legg wrote:Do you really need a double neck guitar?
In the top 40 country I don't hear any C6 or gospel tuning steel played.

There's a lot more C6th on the radio than you think there is. Often the blusey distorted "slide guitar" parts are actually played on pedal steel, on the C6th neck. It's a real natural for blues and rock licks, especially in keys like C, F and G (and their relative minors).

Most of my own C6th playing doesn't sound at all like western swing or jazz. I use the C6th mostly for blues and folk music. Some things just lay easier on the back neck. Click here for an example. I suppose that it could have been played on E9th, but I wouldn't have thought of it on E9th. Funny how the mind works that way.

Bo Legg · Post by **Bo Legg** » 26 Mar 2008 9:50 pm

b0b That's bad timing to reply right behind someone who makes a reference about old geezers. I'm sure he didn't mean you.

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 26 Mar 2008 10:11 pm

Being an old geezer does'nt bother me,[there's not a damn thing I can do about it,]But the truth is ,wish I was a young dumb,whippersnapper again.DYKBC.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 26 Mar 2008 10:31 pm

Ab-so-freaking-lutely.

Stuart Legg · Post by **Stuart Legg** » 26 Mar 2008 10:32 pm

I think there should be an E9th Street in Nashville.
Charles Davidson I was wondering if your mail ever got sent to Arizona by mistake.

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 26 Mar 2008 10:38 pm

Stuart, Its a big world out there and there is plenty of work that the C neck is natural for.

The C neck is great for playing music where they don't want the bendy country sound of the E9. Its also very handy for any pentatonic based music and songs forms that use ii V I type chord progressions.

I rarely get any work that has anything at all to do with the music that makes it to country radio.

Edward Meisse · Post by **Edward Meisse** » 26 Mar 2008 11:13 pm

I don't even play a pedal guitar. To the extent I don't, I'm ignorant. But I believe that in the future only one neck will be needed. That will be either a C6 or a universal. The E9 will one day be considered a quaint artifact. A remnant of a particular period in the country genre of american popular music.

Ric Epperle · Post by **Ric Epperle** » 26 Mar 2008 11:16 pm

There's a lot more C6th on the radio than you think there is. Often the blusey distorted "slide guitar" parts are actually played on pedal steel, on the C6th neck. It's a real natural for blues and rock licks, especially in keys like C, F and G (and their relative minors).

Most of my own C6th playing doesn't sound at all like western swing or jazz. I use the C6th mostly for blues and folk music. Some things just lay easier on the back neck. Click here for an example. I suppose that it could have been played on E9th, but I wouldn't have thought of it on E9th. Funny how the mind works that way.

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Right on dude, you nailed it..

Barry Scott · Post by **Barry Scott** » 27 Mar 2008 5:23 am

C6 or E9? Doesn't matter as long as the guitar color is blue. It's the only color that sounds better than black.

Duane Reese · Post by **Duane Reese** » 27 Mar 2008 8:35 am

Larry Scott · Post by **Larry Scott** » 27 Mar 2008 8:58 am

Barry Scott wrote:C6 or E9? Doesn't matter as long as the guitar color is blue. It's the only color that sounds better than black.

Ha ha !

I think this says it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zj3x82bcXU

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 27 Mar 2008 9:57 am

my hat's off to those who play it all on a U12
in my case, i consider that 2 necks are better than one
yeah ok, the weight factor
i love C6 over E9 cause it's suits what i like to play
i find there are more alterations to chords on C6 than on E9
goes to show that i still got a ways to go huh ?

Charles Davidson · Post by **Charles Davidson** » 27 Mar 2008 10:07 am

Stuart,Don't know what you meant about the Arizona mail thing.DYKBC.

Duane Reese · Post by **Duane Reese** » 27 Mar 2008 10:08 am

Scott Henderson · Post by **Scott Henderson** » 27 Mar 2008 10:14 am

Someone who thinks a C6 neck is only for jazz and cannot do E9 licks must be someone who doesn't own a Double neck. Like Bob Said You would be surprised how much C6th you actually here. I sat next to one of the "Big BOys" one time and heard some of the most beautiful E9 licks on the back neck. Think where this whole steel thing started. I bet it wasn't on a E9 neck. They're just licks. How you get them is entirely up to you. AND if your guitar, regardless of the number of necks, isn't keeping you fed may I suggest KROGER... for employment. hehehehehe

Steve English · Post by **Steve English** » 27 Mar 2008 10:25 am

Charles,

I think he was refering to your hometown, Phenix.
Out here in AZ we spell ours as Phoenix.

P Gleespen · Post by **P Gleespen** » 27 Mar 2008 10:31 am

Stuart Legg wrote: In the top 40 country I don't hear any C6 or gospel tuning steel played.

You might think that you don't, but you really do. Paul Franklin does a LOT of stuff that sounds like E9 on C6. ...and I believe many things that sound like slide guitars that you hear on the radio are in fact steel.

Edit:
I guess I should have read through the responses, as Fearless Leader has already said what I said. What's that saying about great minds?

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 27 Mar 2008 10:36 am

P Gleespen wrote:What's that saying about great minds?

"Great minds think in the same gutter."

Dick Wood · Post by **Dick Wood** » 27 Mar 2008 10:46 am

I don't know that I need it...but I want it.

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 27 Mar 2008 10:46 am

stuart, thank you for complimenting my e9 playing (i'm getting fat!)

barry....you're right about the superior blue color!

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