Who's got the most Knee Levers & Pedals on an E9th ??

David Hartley · Post by **David Hartley** » 24 Jan 2008 3:57 pm

This might be an interesting thread? I remember seeing Franklins steel having a lot of metalwork dangling down, I just wondered whats the maximum? Pictures would be good on this thread too?

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Do many of you stateside pickers lower the B's to Bb?

I remember Fred Justices' was a bit wierd ( for me ), It kinds done things that were different from what I would call a standard set-up?

Going to bed now at 11.45pm, and I will check in the morning to see what replies this one gets..
David Hartley

John Roche · Post by **John Roche** » 24 Jan 2008 4:24 pm

Maybe Jimmy Crawford

Chris Lucker · Post by **Chris Lucker** » 24 Jan 2008 4:28 pm

Vance Terry's Wright?

JERRY THURMOND · Post by **JERRY THURMOND** » 24 Jan 2008 4:35 pm

I know Al Petty had several, Mabe as many as twenty, Iam sure some one on here know the right amount.

Jerry

Jim R. Harrison · Post by **Jim R. Harrison** » 24 Jan 2008 4:35 pm

Here is an old picture I took of Jimmie Crawford years ago in Coquitlam, B.C. He liked the photo so much, he obtained the neg. from me to use in promoting his JCH Guitars. You can see the number of pedals & levers he was using at that time. Regards. Jim H.

Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 24 Jan 2008 5:20 pm

Dave I have 4 pedals and 6 knees on my Zum - although my new Hybrid will have 1 extra knee on the left leg to give me the full Crawford cluster - albiet set up slightly differently than Jimmy.

I think you will find the B-Bb lower is fairly common, and quite often found on the left vertical it would seem.

My 4th pedal is the Franklin changes on 5, 6 and 10.

Frank Freniere · Post by **Frank Freniere** » 24 Jan 2008 6:08 pm

I remember seeing a picture in the PSGA newsletter of an Al Petty monster guitar that had like twenty pedals, two rows of ten stacked on top of each other. Who knows how many knee levers?

Jeff Colson · Post by **Jeff Colson** » 24 Jan 2008 6:41 pm

I lower my B's to Bb and to A wish I would have had both changes 20 years ago Then I would have been a contender !
Jeff

pdl20 · Post by **pdl20** » 24 Jan 2008 6:45 pm

i have 6 on my E 9th and 6 on my c 6th.the rkr & rkl do both tunings ,i have an off(staggard) knee on lkl e9th and lKL on c6th. standard 8 floor.Keep the good stuff coming.its great. i lower my 5th on e-9th a whole tone with a half stop and 6 a whole tone also with half stop.Tommy White set up.some neat stuff that way. see ya Dallas. Rudy

Wayne Franco · Post by **Wayne Franco** » 24 Jan 2008 7:03 pm

I believe he has 11 knees on his guitar. I was trying to discern what the heck someone would use that many pedals for. It seemed he did a lot of double string unison stuff. Maybe the extra levers did just that.

Ernest Cawby · Post by **Ernest Cawby** » 24 Jan 2008 7:16 pm

Jack Conyer has 9x10 knees, I have 8x8 on my Carter, Shobud has 8X5 knees. No record but agood average.

ernie

richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 24 Jan 2008 10:14 pm

I have 3 pedals, 5 levers.
I hardly ever use the vertical (B--Bb), and the RKL (G--F#) doesn't see much action either.

Mickey Adams · Post by **Mickey Adams** » 24 Jan 2008 10:23 pm

The most Ive ever seen is on Buzz Evans RP....10+10...and the man uses every one of them...he da man!

Jerry Erickson · Post by **Jerry Erickson** » 24 Jan 2008 11:31 pm

Jimmie's guitar's were 10+10. I used to own an Emmons D12 PP, bought from John Macy, that had 11 knees and 10 pedals!

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 25 Jan 2008 8:05 am

"10+10." On E 9th? That was the question! I have 3 and 6 on an S-10 Shobud.

Michael Johnstone · Post by **Michael Johnstone** » 25 Jan 2008 10:52 am

Although technically I play a U-12,if I were to look at it as an extended E9,4 out of the 8 pedals would apply plus 8 out of the 9 knee levers.In other words if I were forced to play a 10 string E9 and to do what I can now do on the same 10 strings,I would have 4 pedals & 8 knee levers.BTW the levers in question are laid out with 5 on the left knee - 2 going left,1 going right and 2 verticals. And 3 on the right knee - two left and 1 right.

b0b · Post by **b0b** » 25 Jan 2008 10:55 am

My brain can't handle more than 5. I get confused.

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 25 Jan 2008 11:07 am

Michael, I've played U-12's for25 years. That's why I had Ricky put a bunch of levers on my S-10. I was used to using them! I woulda liked one more but things were getting crowded under there.

Jim Eaton · Post by **Jim Eaton** » 25 Jan 2008 11:07 am

I remember reading that Buddy Cage had 10/14 on the D-10 that he was stolden.
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Bill Dobkins · Post by **Bill Dobkins** » 25 Jan 2008 11:23 am

I think Mike Headrick has 13 levers.

John Macy · Post by **John Macy** » 25 Jan 2008 11:42 am

Both of my Fessenden's have 4 floor and 8 knees on the E9th...

My Crawford PP Emmons has 6 floor and 7 knees on the E9th...

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 25 Jan 2008 1:16 pm

My old guitar was 5+6 on E9th, and 5+6 on C6th. My new guitar is 5+5 on both necks. I'm no great player, though, and I've seen players with 3+2 totally smoke some guy (like me) that had far more pedals, or a fancier guitar.

In general, I don't care what someone else plays, or how many pedals they've got. Playing well impresses me, having lot's of fancy gear doesn't.

Mike Jones · Post by **Mike Jones** » 25 Jan 2008 1:50 pm

Jimmy's set up was 6 floor pedals and 7 knees on the e 9th.

Fred Amendola · Post by **Fred Amendola** » 27 Jan 2008 6:37 am

Couldn't agree with you more, Donny !!

Alan Coldiron · Post by **Alan Coldiron** » 28 Jan 2008 5:06 am

As I remember Al Petty had 21 pedals. I carried it enough times when I worked for him in 1980. He had a bad back you know! I don't remember how many knee levers.

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Who's got the most Knee Levers & Pedals on an E9th ??

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