Sho~bud Maverick Upgrade by John R. Coop Sr.

David Doggett · Post by **David Doggett** » 24 Oct 2007 3:01 pm

I know what you meant, James. I just didn't want any newbies looking at this to get the wrong idea.

James Morehead · Post by **James Morehead** » 24 Oct 2007 6:20 pm

Yeah, cool David.

After Coop gets done with a Maverick, it will make a fine guitar for a newbie or pro who wants a light weight guitar, providing they do not overpay in the first place. Without Coop's parts, you would just have a regular ole Maverick and it's normal
issues.

Chris LeDrew · Post by **Chris LeDrew** » 24 Oct 2007 6:49 pm

Nice work, Coop! Nice to see this idea come to fruition. It's gonna be a success, without a doubt.

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 25 Oct 2007 2:09 pm

James, I visited John on Monday, and saw the Maverick he's workin' on. The mechanics are, as usual, a work of art!

James Morehead · Post by **James Morehead** » 25 Oct 2007 5:08 pm

Yeah John, It's quite obvious that John not only has a tremendous skill and ability, but it's actually his talent that brings these shobud upgrades into the realm of ART!!! When you realise these parts are ART, is when you are PLAYING these parts, and hear the tone improve.

You MAY-----be a fan of John Coop parts, when you find yourself staring at the undercarrage more than staring at the top of the guitar!!

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 25 Oct 2007 5:16 pm

Ya got that right!

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 26 Oct 2007 8:04 am

Here's another perfect candidate for Coop's rebuild. It's a very early Maverick with raised neck and gumby keyhead. Really nice!
http://tinyurl.com/yuk65b

Bob Hickish · Post by **Bob Hickish** » 26 Oct 2007 8:48 am

John

I don't think thats a Maverick !! it looks more like
a Pro 1 -- that one don't need coops help ( IMO )
OoooPss

It says Mavreick on it -- I don't know that
I have ever seen one with the neck over lay .

Hick

A. J. Schobert · Post by **A. J. Schobert** » 26 Oct 2007 9:10 am

What would this cost? I would think this to be more of a luxury that a student model.

How many knees would you get?

When I think off a student model I think of Stage one,etc. or buying a nice used guitar.

I am just taking a guess but if you have to buy a Maverick ship it and have the work done it has to be close to a new S10, or atleast a nice used one.

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 26 Oct 2007 2:38 pm

Bob, it's a Maverick. Look at the underside mechanicals. Also has the black wrinkle-finished endplates, and non-adjustable legs.
AJ, if you had a Coop conversion, you'd have a killer sounding/playing S-10 that weighs 30 pounds in the case. 4 or 5 knees I believe.

Bob Hickish · Post by **Bob Hickish** » 26 Oct 2007 2:43 pm

Yah John , I just saw that . I didn't know that
a Maverick come with the overlay neck .
That would be grate for Coops mod if it would
be long enough to modify one with the extra
thickness of the neck .

Hick

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 26 Oct 2007 2:56 pm

Bob, I just looked again. That's a very interesting guitar. Notice that it's a wood wrap-around neck! And the tuners are open Grovers! And the large pedals are offset towards the center. And the wood in the pedal rack? Some of these things are more characteristic of a '60's guitar than a '70's model. This might be one of the very first Mavericks made! It's kinda like a Permanent in many ways.

Joe Shelby · Post by **Joe Shelby** » 26 Oct 2007 6:32 pm

The maverick I had was exactly as this one. It shipped to me from
a third-party discount house in May '74. Who knows what the build date was, but I must have waited 2 or 3 months to get it, and it was unquestionably new.
The Grover Sta-Tite keys may look cool, but on the
guitar I had, there was a lot of slop in them.

Eventually, I swapped them out for Schallers, and it
was a major project. I was lucky that a friend of my
Dad's had a really good drill press, and that he was
extremely patient (we disassembled keys 5 and 6, shortened the shafts by cutting and then welding them
back together so as not to just grind down the ends of them, as Sho-Bud would do, even on the Pro models;
the gumby keyhead was cast too narrow to accomadate
Grover or Schaller keys, the two quality models of the time.

Crazy? I was 17 and financially limited.
Maybe it was hormones...

Joe Shelby · Post by **Joe Shelby** » 26 Oct 2007 8:11 pm

Anyone considering going the maverick upgrade route
should heed James', Ricky's, David's and Johns' comments, unless you have money to burn.
If you get above $1,000 total cost, guitar and upgrade, you're well in the price range of a used pro single neck (not sure what the current going rate for a 6139/Pro I in working condition is now).
The maverick is light in weight and tonally desirable, but some of the going prices on ebay often
are plainly unrealistic as to what you actually get. Coop's upgrade is going to take the existing changer and undercarraige to a new level, but some things can't be changed (non-adjustable legs, etc.).
Choose wisely, and if this is your first guitar, ask
questions here first, you have the most knowledgeable
folks in the world to guide you.

Joe.

David Doggett · Post by **David Doggett** » 26 Oct 2007 9:58 pm

John, that's a second generation Maverick. The first ones, around 1970, were just like that, but they had unpainted aluminum endplates, plastic keys, a gumby keyhead with grooves for the strings instead of nut rollers (sounded real scratchy), and most were unfigured maple painted enamel colors. The second generation, the best, were figured natural lacquered maple, with the black endplates. The third generation, had no neck, ashtray keyheads, black endplates, and were unfigured maple covered with brown fake-woodgrain vinyl. Except, from the above example, I just learned that one or more of these were made with figured natural lacquered maple.

Joe Shelby · Post by **Joe Shelby** » 27 Oct 2007 2:32 am

While waiting those long 2 or 3 months for the maverick I wound up with, I talked with either David or Harry Jackson and he told me that he had a 3+4
(2nd gen) maverick that was natural birdseye on top
with a blue stained over birdseye front apron.
Price: $425.00

Joe.

John Billings · Post by **John Billings** » 27 Oct 2007 4:42 am

DD, thanks for that info! I never was into Mavericks at all. Got my first Pro in '72. and I never knew anyone with a Maverick.
By the way, Grover still makes the Sta-tite tuners, and now has an upgraded model with an 18 to 1 tuning ratio. I may need about 40 of them when I restore the Permanent and the Fingertip! JB
http://www.grotro.com/Mainvintage.html

Ken Mizell · Post by **Ken Mizell** » 30 Oct 2007 7:27 pm

Anybody heard what the cost of conversion by Coop might be? Don't know that I'd do it, but just wondered how things would add up.

Ken

James Morehead · Post by **James Morehead** » 30 Oct 2007 9:13 pm

Ken, probably depends on what was needed and how far someone wanted to go with it, meaning there probably would be a lot of factors involved to determine cost.

richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 30 Oct 2007 10:16 pm

It seems a bit 'over the top' to me.

If I want a string to both raise and lower on a simple changer system like the Maverick, I hold the finger in the middle position by means of a spring on the corresponding knee lever.

Double raises are no problem, Emmons PushPulls solved this one long ago.

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