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by Mike Perlowin RIP » 7 Jun 2008 4:54 pm
Doug was kind enough to send it to me (along with his new CD) so I could post it.
Thanks Doug
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by John Groover McDuffie » 7 Jun 2008 5:11 pm
Thanks for posting this. Very interesting - but is it possible that the pull listed for the RR2 KL is a typo? maybe in the wrong row? Pulling the G# string up to a C# seems odd to me.
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by Jim Cohen » 7 Jun 2008 7:25 pm
Mike Perlowin wrote: Doug was kind enough to send it to me (along with his new CD) so I could post it.
Thanks Doug
And which 'new CD' would that be, Mike?
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by Mike Perlowin RIP » 8 Jun 2008 10:16 am
Jim Cohen wrote: Mike Perlowin wrote: Doug was kind enough to send it to me (along with his new CD) so I could post it.
Thanks Doug
And which 'new CD' would that be, Mike?
This one Jim. The new copedant is on the inside of the cover.
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by Roger Shackelton » 9 Jun 2008 5:30 pm
Are there any clips of Doug playing the new tuning?
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by Greg Cutshaw » 9 Jun 2008 6:13 pm
Available from Frenchy's Pedal Steel Guitar Shop:
Doug Jernigan & Gary Adams - One Neck Two Heads
This CD is a departure from the norm for Doug, both he and Gary are both playing what I believe is a S-12 E7 add 9 tuning with 5 floor pedals and 8 knee levers.
Songs:
Old Joe Clark
Hang Your Head In Shame
Memories To Burn
Lonely Street
How’s The World Treating You
Somewhere/Over The Rainbow
Shenandoah
Swing Minor
Another Your
Chicken Shack
There Is No Greater Love
CD - Your Cost $ 15.00 plus shipping and handling
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by Bill Moran » 10 Jun 2008 4:19 pm
Doug is a great picker but where is the logic ?
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by Joe Miraglia » 10 Jun 2008 7:00 pm
This tuning open and using the D to C# is simailar to the Ed Alkire (E- Harp) tuning,a none pedal lap steel. I used this tuning 50 years ago. Some players starter to use the Alkire tuning using pedals on pedal steels. This was some 40 years ago. In the 50's a player on the WWWVA Wheeling Jamboree Player the Alkire tuning on a pedel steel, think it had 12 or 14 strings. Built it himself. His name was Gene Perry, a very good player.Joe
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by Brint Hannay » 10 Jun 2008 7:06 pm
But what about John Groover McDuffie's question? Is there really a pull on the .022 G# string up to C#? (OR down to C#?)
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by Ward Orsinger » 10 Jun 2008 9:18 pm
This is an absolutely beautiful tuning in the open--use whatever pulls you want to make it the sound you hear. Very much like the diatonic C tuning used on the orchestral pedal harp; 1/2 step or whole step raises available to each string (in octaves) of the seven tone scale! Bravo Mr. Jernigan!
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by Mike Perlowin RIP » 10 Jun 2008 11:18 pm
Brint Hannay wrote: But what about John Groover McDuffie's question? Is there really a pull on the .022 G# string up to C#? (OR down to C#?)
I don't know the answer to that one.
What;s most impressive to me about this tuning is it's versatility. The CD contains both country and jazz, all played on this tuning.
This may eventually replace the E9/B6 and Bb6 universal tunings.
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by Stephen Gambrell » 12 Jun 2008 4:16 am
What's REALLY amazing is that Gary is still around, after that car wreck. Thank God!
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by Russ Tkac » 12 Jun 2008 5:30 am
Mike Perlowin wrote: [quoteThis may eventually replace the E9/B6 and Bb6 universal tunings.
Don't hold your breath. Change comes very slow around these parts.
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by chris ivey » 12 Jun 2008 7:38 am
i think in doug's case, he just wore out and used up the old tunings!
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by John Groover McDuffie » 12 Jun 2008 8:52 am
But what about John Groover McDuffie's question? Mike, can you contact Doug and ask him if he is really pulling that G# up (or down) to C#?
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by Scott Swartz » 12 Jun 2008 9:36 am
I don't pretend to understand it, but apparently its a hexatonic tuning based on D and E triads applied to steel guitar, per these links
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=107822
http://www.franksinger.com/hexatonics.htm
So hexatonic is the basis of the open tuning, I have no idea on the choices made for the pedals and levers.
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by Roger Shackelton » 31 Jan 2009 9:39 am
^^^BUMP^^^
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by Don Drummer » 31 Jan 2009 6:20 pm
Where is the logic? Good question. I guess you have to sit down with the new system to get a grip on it. Staring at the copedent doesn't do it for me.
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by bob grossman » 7 Feb 2009 2:22 pm
Looks like a big D6 tuning with a b5 in the middle. I turned it into an E tuning to see what he is doing.
Doug is somewhat a chord genius in the manner of Maurice.
I don't see what he is doing with all of the changes. But...I gave up trying to understand other player's setups.
Well,there was one. I'd like to know what Hal Rugg did with some of his non-standard base string changes on C6.
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by Brad Malone » 7 Feb 2009 3:33 pm
I highly doubt that this will catch on...for these things to take hold instruction materials must be provided plus some history of recorded works. The reason that the E9th is so popular is because there is a lot of instruction and recording materials available. plus the producers seem to favor this tuning because of its brightness. For POP and country, IMHO the 10 string E9th tuning was the greatest tuning ever conceived when the 3 floor and 5 or 6 knee levers were added....like they say the BREAD AND BUTTER NECK.
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by Bill Cutright » 8 Feb 2009 6:26 am
JGMcD: I'm assuming itsa typo and, if its anything, may be a raise to 'A' (or, maybe a seperate lower that doesnt effect the same strings as the other lever)
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by Tony Prior » 8 Feb 2009 7:46 am
Is this really Doug's "new" tuning or perhaps just another tuning that he may be having fun with ? Has he put his D-10's away for good ?
curious minds need to know.
tp
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by bob grossman » 8 Feb 2009 9:15 am
I haven't read many or the posts, but did anyone else notice that Doug has six floor pedals? The chart shows five.