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Topic: Jimmy Page & Pedal Steel on Led Zeppelin Albums? Really? |
Dennis Montgomery
From: Western Washington
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Posted 3 Apr 2024 10:01 am
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Hey all,
My wife got me this great "Led Zeppelin - All the Songs" book (well, great if you like Led Zep ). Anyway, I just ran across an entry that completely surprised me. The book reports Jimmy Page saying he played a Fender 800 on a couple LZ songs. "You're Time is Gonna Come" from the 1st album and "Tangerine" from the 3rd album.
I was skeptical so gave the tracks a listen...and there it is! On "Your Time is Gonna Come" it begins at the 3:48 mark running until the end of the track. It's mixed pretty deep in the background, but it's there and I never noticed it before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cvEVivHVsU
On "Tangerine" from the 3rd Led Zep album, it's there on the refrains (0:57 & 2:06) and the outro beginning at (2:37) and much more up front in the mix and easier to hear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaFjxLMsOuo
He's not playing anything difficult, but I had no idea he was a versatile enough guitarist to drag out a Fender 800 and play some nice parts that really add to the songs _________________ Hear my latest album, "Celestial" featuring a combination of Mullen SD12 and Synthesizers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhh6b_xXTx4&list=PLfXm8aXRTFz0x-Sxso0NWw493qAouK
Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz2Pz_GXhvmjne7lPEtsplyW
Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz2f0JOyiXpZyzNrvnJObliA |
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John Ducsai
From: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2024 12:25 pm
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John Larson
From: Pennsyltucky, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2024 2:23 pm
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He's got nothing on John Paul Jones' level of multi instrumental talent but that's pretty cool. I guess I wasn't imagining having heard some PSG on Zepp tunes.
Makes sense why he was playing a bunch of b-bender later on.
I know about these guys
Who else is a dabbler? _________________ Rejoice in the Lord, O ye righteous; praise is meet for the upright. Give praise to the Lord with the harp, chant unto Him with the ten-stringed psaltery. Sing unto Him a new song, chant well unto Him with jubilation. For the word of the Lord is true, and all His works are in faithfulness. The Lord loveth mercy and judgement; the earth is full of the mercy of the Lord.
- Psalm 33:1-5 |
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Dennis Montgomery
From: Western Washington
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Dennis Montgomery
From: Western Washington
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John Larson
From: Pennsyltucky, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2024 6:06 pm
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Dennis Montgomery wrote: |
John Larson wrote: |
He's got nothing on John Paul Jones' level of multi instrumental talent but that's pretty cool. I guess I wasn't imagining having heard some PSG on Zepp tunes. |
Agreed. JPJ was really the glue that held LZ together and filled the empty spaces with his many musical talents (from playing to arranging). It's funny, I've heard Tangerine literally dozens of times and Jimmy's pedal steel never jumped out at me...until now when I knew it was there |
Yup, never realized how much so til I was listening to the Them Crooked Vultures album heavily.
He brings back that Trampled Under Foot funk!
"Scumbag Blues"
I hope they make another album while they still have JPJ around.
His keys work is mighty underrated imo it's the reason "No Quarter" is my favorite Zepp tune.
He's even got a bass lap steel!
_________________ Rejoice in the Lord, O ye righteous; praise is meet for the upright. Give praise to the Lord with the harp, chant unto Him with the ten-stringed psaltery. Sing unto Him a new song, chant well unto Him with jubilation. For the word of the Lord is true, and all His works are in faithfulness. The Lord loveth mercy and judgement; the earth is full of the mercy of the Lord.
- Psalm 33:1-5 |
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Dennis Montgomery
From: Western Washington
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John Ducsai
From: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2024 5:16 pm
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Dennis Montgomery wrote: |
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Wow...so he played it live as well? Do you know where/when this shot was taken? |
Not sure where or when this was - I found this photo online years ago... |
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Daniel Flanigan
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2024 4:47 pm
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In addition to "Tangerine", there's another song that featured pedal steel on Zep III; "That's The Way". This song has some very beautiful, albeit simple, steel parts in it.
Regarding "Your Time Is Gonna Come", the pedal changes are considerably out of tune on this track. According to Jimmy Page, this is because he ordered the Fender by mail and he set the up guitar himself and didn't do it properly. He says he just put the pedal steel away after recording that song and didn't use it again until he decided to use it on Zep III, at which time he had it professionally set up.
And that picture of Jimmy playing the MSA, I too first saw that years ago. He never used it in the studio, and I could never find any video or audio recordings of Jimmy playing the MSA or any other pedal steel live. _________________ I'm waitin' for the pardon that'll set me free,
But this ain't the movies, so forget about me. |
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Dennis Montgomery
From: Western Washington
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Posted 8 Apr 2024 8:28 pm
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Did a Google reverse image search of that shot of Jimmy with the MSA. Best info I can find says it wasn't taken during a live performance but at a rehearsal for the '77 tour at Manticore Studios (an old theater owned by Emerson, Lake & Palmer). Here's some other shots supposedly taken that same day:
In a Feb '77 interview a few months before the tour began Page said: "We've got such a variety in there - Oh, 'Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You' is another number that we've been using pedal steel guitar instead of the usual. So it sounds pretty different from the original." Apparently he changed his mind as I saw them on the '77 tour (their final US date ever in Oakland, 7/24/77) and he didn't play PSG on the tour. In fact, setlists I found from that tour shows they didn't even play 'Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You' _________________ Hear my latest album, "Celestial" featuring a combination of Mullen SD12 and Synthesizers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhh6b_xXTx4&list=PLfXm8aXRTFz0x-Sxso0NWw493qAouK
Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz2Pz_GXhvmjne7lPEtsplyW
Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz2f0JOyiXpZyzNrvnJObliA |
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Andrew Frost
From: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 10 Apr 2024 7:34 am
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That haunting outro of Over The Hills and Far Away has always intrigued me.
Sounds like an organ...
Very pedal steel-like but kind of sine-wavey and no vibrato. |
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