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Topic: Sara Jory |
Charley Hill
From: The Dirty South
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Posted 30 Oct 2017 2:54 pm
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Brian,
You are full of capitulation my friend.....lol
Plus, you spell my name wrong. Now, you must surrender the thread to the spelling police.
That is like spelling loyd Greene or Tonie Prior or Brain Henry.....just wrong.
_________________ Traveler, Peddler and Extreme life lover. Giving up is not an option. |
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David Neslony
From: Arlington, TX USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2017 3:33 pm Re: Sara Jory
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Have you seen some of Buddy Emmons' old photos? |
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Joerg Hennig
From: Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 8 Nov 2017 12:21 pm
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Back to the original topic - Sarah is simply totally into it and it shows on her facial expressions and body language. This is nothing but passion, a great artist who is really passionate about her art, I don't know what can possibly be wrong with that.
I saw her back in 2003 at the ISGC (the only one I ever managed to attend) and afterwards showed some pictures I'd taken of Sarah performing to my then girlfriend, her comment was, "it looks like she is making love to the steel guitar" which is a wonderful way to describe it.
And, as shown in one of the videos above, she is also capable of taking steel beyond country and into other genres, which is always great.
My personal Sarah Jory memory is, one night after the show on the way to the hotel room, I happened to ride in the elevator with her. I don't remember what we talked about but she was very friendly. |
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 9 Nov 2017 3:21 am
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... and she gave a hug once Really nice lady! _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Charley Hill
From: The Dirty South
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Posted 9 Nov 2017 6:29 am
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Joachim Kettner wrote: |
... and she gave a hug once Really nice lady! |
Iรขโฌโขve got the proof.....
_________________ Traveler, Peddler and Extreme life lover. Giving up is not an option. |
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 10 Nov 2017 4:08 am
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Nice photograph Charley! _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Gary Cooper
From: Atmore, Alabama
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Posted 10 Nov 2017 8:43 am Theatrics
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Emmons was great, he smiled a lot, he connected with the audience, so does Paul Franklin. However, there is a pro player who comes to most all the shows, great player, really fast, but he never smiles, never looks up, doesn't connect with the audience. Big difference between great players and great entertainers. Jory is an entertainer. _________________ GFI Ultra SD-10; Nashville 112; Hilton pedal, George L Cables; Pearse bar; Live Stings;Walker seat by Billy Knowles. |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 10 Nov 2017 9:44 am
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...there is a pro player who comes to most all the shows, great player, really fast, but he never smiles, never looks up, doesn't connect with the audience. Big difference between great players and great entertainers. |
I think I know who you're referring to, Gary, and I agree. That's the other extreme... stone-faced playing, looking down, not connecting with the audience. I don't think either extreme works well. JMO YMMV _________________ My Site / My YouTube Channel
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Henry Matthews
From: Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2017 11:58 am
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Sarah is the real deal and I have personally know her since she was about 14 maybe. Her expressions are genuine as much as her playing is. She is an entertainer along with being a great talent and a great person. Everything about her is genuine. _________________ Henry Matthews
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 16 Nov 2017 12:48 pm
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Charley Hill wrote: |
Brian,
You are full of capitulation my friend.....lol
Plus, you spell my name wrong. Now, you must surrender the thread to the spelling police.
That is like spelling loyd Greene or Tonie Prior or Brain Henry.....just wrong.
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I don't feel comfortable with this post, as Brian wasn't insulting Sarah. Other people who watched her play had similar sentiments, including me. I thought she was show-offy, but she's only enjoing what she does. I just felt like sayng this in defense of him. _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Kevin Fix
From: Michigan, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2017 4:12 pm Wow!!!!!
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Man oh Man!!! I see this is still rolling!!!!!! I still love what she does. I was truly inspired by her talent and showmanship!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 17 Nov 2017 4:29 pm
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This thread's still here???
I didn't insult her either, but this is the SGF where certain lines mustn't be crossed, apparently, or you run the risk of public castigation.
She's certainly one of the best ever from Britain (on E9, anyway) and her fundamentals are really solid. I'll say it again - I have nothing but admiration for the hard work she's put in.
I just can't watch her. _________________ Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Michael Johnstone
From: Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2017 5:47 pm
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Late to the game but my view is: If it entertains people (not just steel players) and it doesn't affect the entertainer's execution of the music, I gotta give it a pass. Hendrix was a genius and I knew him and saw him play many times. He's another one who got away with the stuff he did because he didn't miss a lick. I once saw him play a concert in about a 2000 seat space. I was about 10 feet directly in front of him and I was tripping heavily (hey it was 1968). Even tho I'd seen him do it before in small clubs full of drunk people in Greenwich Village and it seemed very hip and pushing the envelope, I remember thinking (on acid) damn that's really silly when he went into the (by then perfunctory) behind the head, w/his teeth stuff and all the rest for basically a fairly reserved sit down audience type concert and I felt that HE thought it was silly also. But Hendrix came from a long line of musicians out on the chittlin' circuit where the more entertaining musicians got the most gigs.
The roots of playing behind the neck, mugging and such antics go back to before Vaudeville at least as far as mid 1800s minstrelsy. I've seen old photos from slave days of people playing banjos behind their heads. And then there's the stories about Paganini and his showmanship in the late 1700s where he would "accidentally" break strings as the tune progressed until feigning demon possession,he finished up some devilishly complex caprice on one string as women fainted from the thrill of it all....
Audiences want and expect a bit of razzmatazz. Except an audience comprised of middle aged male steel players it seems.
As far as Sarah goes,she's the real thing. I've hung out with her a little over the years in St. Louis and watched her grow up into a very cool,funky chick and brilliant musician. I got nuthin bad to say about anything she does visually on stage. She pulls it off quite nicely. Chill guys it's not brain surgery. Anyhow I daresay she can outplay at least half the people on this forum so slack is what's called for. |
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Brint Hannay
From: Maryland, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2017 11:06 pm
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I'm glad you brought up Hendrix. He seems like one of the best comparisons here. His stage presentation (at least in '67 and '68, when I saw him live on multiple occasions) was a seamless combination of genuine, spontaneous expression of feeling the music and overt showmanship. I feel the same about Sarah's presentation. And in her case, as in his, it's all overlaid on deep musicianship. What's not to like? |
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 18 Nov 2017 8:21 am
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Brint...
I didn't see this myself but Albert Lee told me that he attended a Hendrix 'press launch' at a London club (maybe the Speakeasy - I'm not sure) and Jimi 'went into his routine', rolling around the floor and playing with his teeth.
Apparently it all felt, and looked, vaguely incongruous at 9.30 in the morning.
I get it, I really do - it's a show, after all. Glen Campbell had no more staunch devotee than me but I could easily have lived without the obligatory bagpipe solo. _________________ Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Ken Byng
From: Southampton, England
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Posted 18 Nov 2017 1:58 pm
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Roger Rettig wrote: |
.........Glen Campbell had no more staunch devotee than me but I could easily have lived without the obligatory bagpipe solo. |
Yes, but what about playing his guitar behind his head? (Also done by many others I might add). _________________ Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E, |
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 18 Nov 2017 2:20 pm
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Yes, that was something else that irked me. But I was in Joe Brown's band for a couple of years so I'm inured to that one.
I wouldn't want to try and put a Gibson Super 400 behind my head but a Tele? No problem.
But why do it? I think it's a pity that you have to patronise people in order to entertain them. Shouldn't the music be enough?
I know - don't answer that. _________________ Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Chris Templeton
From: The Green Mountain State
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Joachim Kettner
From: Germany
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Posted 19 Nov 2017 12:34 am
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Ken Byng wrote: |
Yes, but what about playing his guitar behind his head? (Also done by many others I might add). |
James Burton surprisingly did that also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7N9jxt4GI _________________ Fender Kingman, Sierra Crown D-10, Evans Amplifier, Soup Cube. |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 19 Nov 2017 7:08 am
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I like Michael Johnstone's remark:
"Anyhow I daresay she can outplay at least half the people on this forum......."
Undoubtedly true and a conservative estimate, too.
It doesn't change my view, but that's worth some thought. _________________ Roger Rettig - Emmons D10s, Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and old Martins.
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2017 1:27 pm
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Doug Beaumier wrote: |
Playing guitar behind the head has been stock-in-trade for R&B guitarists for 70 years or more |
That shot of T-Bone says it all for me. As if his music wasn't enough, he could do that too. And you know what else? It wouldn't have the same effect if he wasn't decked out in an awesome suit. Wardrobe is definitely part of showmanship. Same with Hendrix, Elton John, Madonna, Prince, and anyone else who believes the spectacle is as important as the music. (Feel free to post a pic of Elton wearing outrageous "spectacles" here____).
The question is, do people believe it when you do it, or do they feel like they're being put on? I think the quality of the music answers that question.
I like how this thread developed away from just being about Sara Jory. Maybe it never really was just about her. |
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James Kerr
From: Scotland, UK
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Posted 22 Nov 2017 11:54 am
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I think ZZ Top are even more brave performing in front of cardboard Amp Stacks, Instruments not plugged in and managing to get Pedal Steel sounds out of a dead Lap Steel, wearing false beards and Roy Orbison sun glasses.
JK. |
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Jim Smerk
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 23 Nov 2017 5:54 am
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Her "looks" never bothered me, mainly because she has the talent to back up the expressions. Now, when I see a bad player of ANY instrument doing the same....yea, that gets on me nerves.... |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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