E9 RKL vs RKR

[Scott Duckworth]

Just curious, which lever is "normally" used the most of the right levers, the RKL 1 & 7 raise, or the RKR 2 & 9 lower?

[Dave Mudgett]

First, those KL locations are not universal for those changes. Many (including myself) use RKL for the E=>Eb lower, and lots of location permutations exist for the 'standard' KL changes.

Second, regardless of location, different players often use changes quite differently. I don't even have a 1/7 raise on my guitars, so I definitely use the 2/9 lower much more. I consider the latter one of the 'essential' E9 changes, but generally prefer to lower 6 (on LKR) rather than raise 7.

To me, it's whatever works for the music one is doing and, to some extent, whatever one gets used to - although that can be changed with a little effort.

[Jason Lynch]

I second what Dave said. I have E-Eb lower on RKL, 2/9 lower on RKR. 1/7 semitone raise on LKR and E-F on LKL. I also have 6 a hole tone lower on a vertical. and for a one song, I use them all! phew.

[Scott Duckworth]

With what I am looking at, the E raises are on LKL and lowers are on LKR.

[Richard Sinkler]

A lot of players have the "E" changes on the left knee. There is NO standard for knee lever placement, like there is (well, 2 - Emmons and Day) for pedal placement.

[Richard Sinkler]

I second what Dave said. I have E-Eb lower on RKL, 2/9 lower on RKR. 1/7 semitone raise on LKR and E-F on LKL. I also have 6 a hole tone lower on a vertical. and for a one song, I use them all! phew.

There are times, that on a song when I will use all 6 of my E9 levers. Depends on my mood and the song.

[Howard Steinberg]

I had my E's on the right side for 35 years or so (rkl raise, rkr lower). I switched them to the left side about a year ago. I find that, for me the left side is better. My ankles are pretty flexible, considering their age, and I have no issues with pedal lever combinations. I also moved the 2nd and 9th string lowers to rkr which for me is an improvement. It took a lot of playing time to adjust. It really is what works best for you. Pick 1 and if you don't like it after awhile switch them around.

[Scott Duckworth]

I found the answer I was looking for... thanks everyone...

[Larry Baker]

RKL = raise 1, lower 6

[Will Cowell]

Jason,

I bet you don't use them all at once! My U12 has the (equivalent of) 2 & 9 lower on LKL, 1 & 7 raise on LKR, and E's lower on RKL, raise on RKR. All this so I can "peg" the E's to Eb with my right leg/foot while playing the B6 stuff. Funny perhaps, but it makes sense to me enough to re-learn when I transferred from my more conventional 10 string E9 guitar.

Will C

[Richard Sinkler]

If I played a U-12, My E's would get moved to the right knee.

[Rick Schmidt]

If I played a U-12, My E's would get moved to the right knee.

I agree! At least the E lowers

[Lane Gray]

Or the John Alexander lever (transposed for ease of discussion): D# open, half stop at E and continuing on to F. Frees up a lever.

[Richard Sinkler]

If I played a U-12, My E's would get moved to the right knee.

I agree! At least the E lowers

For sure. I have never studied the Universal E9/B6 enough to know if the F lever is used on the B6 side.

[Lane Gray]

I can't see a lot of use for it there. I've never raised an E to F# on C6, and only once or twice have I ever wished I did.

[Henry Senior]

I use it a bit..

It makes the 6th chord you get using C6 pedal 7 into a maj7 chord.

also if you press pedal 7 and lower the B string while raising your Es you get a nice 13th (or #9) chord

[Micky Byrne]

On the 2 universals I use, I use RKR to lower my E's and RKL to raise them. Keeps things clear to use pedals 4..5..6..7 when switching to B6th mode, with my E's on the right

Micky "scars" Byrne ..... Grays, Essex UK.