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Topic: Why country music has no balls |
Mark Tomeo
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Ron Page
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Posted 10 Mar 2000 12:19 pm |
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Lots of insights, too much in fact. I ran out of gas towards the end of this one...
Thanks Mark.
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One leading Nashville critic saw Clay Walker perform with Alan Jackson at the Gaylord Entertainment Center last month and noticed one painful difference between the two artists.
"Clay Walker jumped all over the place on stage," the critic said. "Alan Jackson just stood up there and sang his songs and hardly moved, but was better than Clay Walker could ever hope to be."
Don’t just do something. Stand there!!!
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Earnest Bovine
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Posted 10 Mar 2000 12:22 pm
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| Barry Manilow, the balladeer of the 1980s and a man of ambiguous sexuality who was rumored to chase around the male members of his own band between shows, is now doing a country album |
ambiguous?!?! |
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Janice Brooks
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Posted 10 Mar 2000 4:27 pm
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| Country Weekly, which deservedly has a huge although technically it isn't a weekly anymore, is run by two of the sharpest journalists in town in Neil Pond and Rick Taylor – superb writers both. Their staff has made the magazine look 100 percent better in recent months. But even CW ran a story about what female artists looked for when they bought shoes |
The same folks who did not know Jimmy Day
and Little Roy Wiggins.
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Janice "Busgal" Brooks
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Robbie Bossert
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Posted 10 Mar 2000 8:06 pm
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Real Country music DOES have balls. The crap that they're playing on "country radio" today is anything but... Best described as castrated lounge garbage.
Dale Watson for President.
Robbie
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2000 7:50 am
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Pix1,
Yo gonna get yoself "in a heap a trouble boy!"
I did!!  Not really. Go for it!!!
God bless you friend,
carl |
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Dan Crook
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Cypress, TX, U.S.A.
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Posted 11 Mar 2000 8:25 pm
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"artists like the vastly underrated Billy Ray Cyrus"
Billy Ray Cyrus - underrated? I hardly think so.
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D. Crook
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2000 11:36 pm
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| That article is just a PR piece for the "artists" named in the last section. He likes Montgomery Gentry, for example, who "may be the best new male country act in years". Well, I saw Montgomery Gentry on Opry Backstage, and the pretty boy singer wears earrings! What's with that? |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2000 12:58 am
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| Blackbeard the Pirate wears earrings. Are you calling him a sissy? |
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Joe Casey
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Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 12 Mar 2000 6:23 am
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Correction:Blackbeard the Pirate wore earings,If you dug him up I am sure they are not hanging on his ears.And if one has talent all one has to do is sing,not jump around and create smoke screens to disguise flaws.Maybe that's why Steel players don't get all the credit they deserve.They just sit there and sound good.(sometimes)Can anyone invent a steel that hangs around ones neck so a player can jump around like a B@ngo play-er?Just a thought  Now watch somebody take me serious.
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Janice Brooks
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Pleasant Gap Pa
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Posted 12 Mar 2000 7:31 pm
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| That article is just a PR piece for the "artists" named in the last section. He likes Montgomery Gentry, for example, who "may be the best new male country act in years". Well, I saw Montgomery Gentry on Opry Backstage, and the pretty boy singer wears earrings! What's with that? |
I guess our boss likes a clean cut image.
So what does this say about the outlaw look of the 70's or the trend of long sideburns
seen in a recent thread ?
by the way over in RMCW newsgroup we are having trouble getting thru to a couple folks
that back in the radio days folks bought music for the voice not the look of the act |
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Earl Erb
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Old Hickory Tenn
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Posted 12 Mar 2000 7:59 pm
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| Joe,you didn't forget about Cousin Jody? Steel strapped around his neck jumping around like a banjo player.I was working the Opry when he was still alive.I thought he was cool. |
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Steve England
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Austin, TX
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Posted 13 Mar 2000 10:07 am
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I have one earring . Am I okay?? At least I keep it in my ear and not one of the more fashionable places earrings seem to find themselves nowadays
Are Montgomery Gentry those two that look like a good guy/bad guy WWF tag wrestling team? I'm taking that danged old earring out right now!!!!! |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 13 Mar 2000 1:40 pm
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Sorry, but to me it just ain't country. Country is style as well as music. You know, snaps, boots, hats, all that. Earrings just don't fit, in my opinion.
Steve, I have a lot af friends who have the pierced and tatooed look. I have nothing against them or you personally. It's your business, not mine. I just think that it's at odds with the country tradition. Can you imagine Hank or Earnest with earrings? |
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Ron Page
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Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 13 Mar 2000 2:00 pm
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No, I can't imagine Hank or ET wearing one, but men didn't wear earrings in those days. Now it's more common especially in "entertainment".
Men and earrings is a generational thing. The younger generations think nothing of it--until they have to interview with us boomers for the job they want.
I'm a conservative sort and don't go in for piercings myself, but often times a young gentleman adorned as such will come calling at my house. My only rule is that they better not have more holes in their ears than my daughter (2 in each).
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Janice Brooks
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Pleasant Gap Pa
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Posted 13 Mar 2000 3:17 pm
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So how many of you guys have tattoo's? and are thay places where you can't miss them.
Bob I like a conservitive look also but the music matters most.
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Janice "Busgal" Brooks
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Steve B
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Garland Texas
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Posted 13 Mar 2000 6:20 pm
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Modern top 40 country music is (for the most part) some pretty bad stuff. The terrible music that comes out of nashville also comes with some pretty bad fashion statements too. I would say that tattoos and earrings are a petty thing to worry about, in the big picture of all the crappy music and styles coming out of Nashville. Merele Haggards guitar player has a big tattoo, in plain sight. Dale Watson seems to make it a point that his always show. Don Walser, big tattoo on his arm too. Ever seen a photo of Hank Thompson in a short sleeve shirt? Probably not, but he is covered in tattoos, and plays great country music at the same time. I would say that the "mullet" hair-do worn by so many pro wrestlers and country music figures, looks worse than any tattoo. This is just my opinion.
www.1100springs.com [This message was edited by Steve B on 13 March 2000 at 06:22 PM.] |
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Andy Alford
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Posted 13 Mar 2000 6:45 pm
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| I saw a bottom lip with a large wood spoon inserted in it in National Geographic.Maybe that will be popular next. |
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Marty Pollard
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Posted 13 Mar 2000 7:17 pm
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That's the next logical step.
While it's true that it has nothing to do with the music; tattoos, piercings, face paint, and other forms of body mutilation are all part of the barbaric practices of the savages. If that's the identity a person is striving for, that's certainly his/her business; it's just sad when folks are so lacking in a positive self-image that they need to resort to such pathetic, juvenile means to get attention (not to mention, assert their individuality along with a million others ).
At least Barely Manenough had some good material and could present it well. That's more than most of the C&W men can do.
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disclaimer: Just my opinion.!
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Janice Brooks
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Posted 13 Mar 2000 8:25 pm
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The terrible music that comes out of nashville also comes with some pretty bad fashion statements too. I would say that tattoos and earrings are a petty thing to worry about, in the big picture of all the crappy music and styles coming out of Nashville. Merele Haggards guitar player has a big tattoo, in plain sight. Dale Watson seems to make it a point that his always show. Don Walser, big tattoo on his arm too. Ever seen a photo of Hank Thompson in a short sleeve shirt? Probably not, but he is covered in tattoos, and plays great country music at the same time. I would say that the "mullet" hair-do worn by so many pro wrestlers and country music figures, looks worse than any tattoo. This is just my opinion.
A lot of these guys are my musical idols. Even the guys in BR5-49 have tattoos. however I think B0B has the right idea for attire for country shows.
once again sorry Jo Dee
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Boomer
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Brentwood, TN USA
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Posted 14 Mar 2000 5:25 am
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| Back to the post about why Country Music doesn't have "balls", I feel certain country songs are meant to have "balls" via a statement and/or exciting playing with a driving beat. But while "Make the World Go Away" by Eddy Arnold doesn't have "balls", its still a country classic to me. It might be more accurate to say "Country music is a 'ball'". Best, Boomer |
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Steve B
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Garland Texas
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Posted 14 Mar 2000 10:24 am
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| So is Don Walser a savage beast, or is he just looking for attention? Hank Thompson must be a complete savage beast too, To the point of the post, popular top 40 country music has no "balls", because the crap that Nashville spoon feeds to the lemmings has to be that way, otherwise they wouldnt accept it. It is what I call the lowest common denominator. They like it because they are supposed to, and they probably dont even know it. Why else would anyone listen to Tim McGraw on purpose. By the way, the visual immage that Nashville presents with their artists is very planned out, to be accepted by the fans. Why else would Montgomery Gentry look like a pro wrestling tag team? Here is another point to the whole style issue: The people that play country music dont always look like the people that listen to country music. |
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Bobby Lee
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Posted 14 Mar 2000 10:52 am
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| Body mutilation is against my religion, too. I couldn't stop my daughters, though. |
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Bill Ferguson
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Milton, FL USA
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Posted 14 Mar 2000 12:29 pm
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"it's just sad when folks are so lacking in a positive self-image that they need to resort to such pathetic, juvenile means to get attention"
This is not just true of earrings, tatoos and such. It's also true of how we bash each other.
In a recent post, I asked that "country" music be defined and I got no reply.
Just what is country music and is country music the same for everyone?
Bill Ferguson
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Marty Pollard
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Posted 14 Mar 2000 1:18 pm
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Ouch; good point Bill. Steve, I imagine that, yes, those folks were striving for attention when they got their alterations and if you ask them they will probably tell you as much. I've heard many people say they wished they hadn't done it (tatoos). And b0b, my four daughters are welcome to pierce or dye anything they please after they're 18 or living elsewhere.
As for your question, Bill, it's like the supreme court said about porn; it's hard to define, but I know it when I see it. Same for country music. What I find amusing is that across the different 'pop' genres, the basic structure is the same; everybody's working with the same building blocks. Balls= testosterone= male agression= patriarchy= politically incorrect. So, I suppose the answer to the premise lies with the accountant/producer/distributor relationship. It seems to be an avoidance of controversy which I don't understand; I thought controvery always SOLD product.
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