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Phil Iacone

 

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Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 14 Aug 2023 3:00 pm    
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Recently bought a 1948 Epiphone Century lap steel and the tone control is wired and works in an interesting way that I've never experienced on an electric guitar.

When the tone pot is in the center position, the tone is at it's fullest with the full amount of bass and treble -- sounds like a typical tone pot at 10.
As the tone knob is turned up, the bass response decreases and the treble sounds remain, it can get quite shrill on it's own but I'm sure it's great in the mix to cut through the bands.
When the tone knob is turned down it functions like the standard tone knob and the lowest frequencies remain.

It's a smart design in my opinion and I'm curious if it was a common feature before the electric Spanish guitars standardized tone pot wiring with the single capacitor.. bass and treble fully intact at 10, only treble decreasing with the wipe of the pot function.

Here's a sloppy online diagram I made of the wiring.
*Please ignore the values; I didn't measure them yet, but I don't know how to remove them using the online tool
Also, the 40Hz sine wave input represent the hot wire from the pickup.. also didn't know how to change that





I'm curious if anybody else has experiences with 1930s and 1940s lap steels using this kind of tone control wiring or if this was something fairly uncommon and most lap steel tone controls were wired like a standard electric guitar.

Thanks
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Noah Miller


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Rocky Hill, CT
Post  Posted 14 Aug 2023 4:31 pm    
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Most Epiphones - Spanish or Hawaiian - have conventional treble roll-off tone controls. But I have encountered a couple of bizzaros. My Varichord has two tone knobs despite one being labeled as volume; anybody who knew why probably died decades ago.

They did like experimenting on the electrical side. Epiphone almost certainly had the first bass roll-off controls on the market, and the first pickups with adjustable poles.

The closest I've seen to what you're describing is on National New Yorkers from the '40s. Some versions had the pot wired with two different-value caps, so they were brightest in the middle and rolled off the treble differently in each direction. But most 1930s electrics had the same style of tone knob wiring we still use today (if they even had a tone control, which was a high-end feature for a long time).
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