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Topic: Knee Lever Notation |
Jory Simmons
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Elkhorn, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2021 1:01 pm |
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Many of you know who I am from My 100's of posts over the years, and My Tabs for sale. I've been a member here for a long time. I have been Playing E9 PSG for 45 years and have always called the knee levers as such: 4&8 E to F the "F" Lever.....4&8 E to Eb..The "E" Lever....The "D" lever lowering strings 2&9 1/2 and/or whole tone.Lets cut to the chase.. I just saw a book for sale on eBay "100 Hot Licks for PSG". His co-pedent chart show the "D" lever Lowering the E strings...and the "E" lever lowering string 2&9. So My question is have I been wrong all these years...or is this person wrong???? My Catalog has 380 songs and I have a large customer Base.....So I would Hate find out I've been mislabeling My Notations all these years!!!!
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Dana Blodgett
From:
California, USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2021 2:28 pm
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Jory, I’m with you on this one, but I have seen plenty of others uses referencing what you are talking about at the top of the page as ie.
L= Lower 1/2 step
LL-Lower whole step
R=Raise 1/2 step
RR=Raise whole step
Or something similar it’s ok but, it would nice if there were a “universal language to identify raises or lowers.
I started out on psg in early 70s and was aware of “ABC†pedals (Emmons)…next thing I remember was the D lever which lowered the 2nd string…
Then I remember hearing about the “F†lever which raises 4&8 by 1/2 step…
Next I heard about was “E “ lever which lowered the 4&8 strings by 1/2 step…
And later theâ€X†Lever which lowered the 5&10 by1/2
This is my recollection and my opinion for what it’s worth
I didn’t pay much attention to “ Day “ set up!
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Dana Blodgett
From Los Osos,Ca.
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 6 Sep 2021 2:58 pm
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Jory, you're in the mainstream, so keep paddlin'!
There are some strange ones out there. In some instructional material I have Neil Flanz calls the A & B pedals the opposite way round!
Be happy but wary 
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George Biner
From:
Los Angeles, CA
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Posted 8 Sep 2021 9:21 pm
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And then there are some who call your "E" lever a "D" lever, supposedly because after ABC, they started over with the levers from left to right. argh.
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 8 Sep 2021 11:58 pm
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I believe most people name them in historical order. When the very first lever appeared it lowered 2 and 8. When those functions got separated to lower 4&8 and 2&9, it made sense to call the one that operated on the E strings the E and the one for the Ds the D. I don't know why anyone would disagree, but I guess there's always someone.
The next arrival was the F lever (strictly E# but the name isn't as catchy). After that a lever to lower 6 or raise 7: the next letter of the alphabet is G, and it's either operating on a G# string or producing a G, so not much argument there.
This is all regardless of where they're physically placed (on my unis they go G F D E from left to right).
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