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Topic: Why not cables from the pedals to crossrods? |
Paul Leoni
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Mississippi, USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2021 5:01 pm |
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Given a clean sheet of paper.
Is there really a good reason not to do this?
It would be great to move the pedals around separately from the neck, standing or sitting at will, probably much lighter, no cabinet sag...I can go on. Shimano has perfected cables decades ago....
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Paul Leoni
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Mississippi, USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2021 5:05 pm
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I suppose knee levers would rule out standing for the most part but maybe not...hipshot etc...
At least the option would be possible |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2021 5:51 pm
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No, it is cleaner to use rods, or at least a combination especially if you want to raise the F's to both F and F#.
You can use a LeGrande or a JCH or many other guitar brand pull rods. The threads are likely to match the threads in the female threaded tube with wire looping the endplate tuning screws. Attach these to the pull rod and tighten to the changer finger with heat shrink tubing. With the heat shrink tubing, the loop will not fall off the finger when the knee levers are collapsed to fit into the guitar case. Alternatively, you may drill holes in the fingers and attach the pull cable or rod with deep sea-sized fishing snap swivels.
Here is an example where I mix rods with cables. Typically, I use a rod for LKL raising the F to F#I tune the change with a Sho-Bud barrel or an Emmons half tone tuner.
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Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2021 5:53 pm
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 Here is a closer view:
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Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Paul Leoni
From:
Mississippi, USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2021 6:20 pm
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Nice Chris
Similar, but better than the Fender 2000 I just sold for weight reasons. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Jun 2021 6:30 pm
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Rods don't break, cables do!
(Just ask any long-term bike rider.) |
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Mark Perrodin
From:
Tucson Arizona, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2021 4:57 am fender
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hi chris,
i have seen pics of your fender many times but i’ve never seen the copedent. can you please post your tuning? very curious what you’ve done with all ten of those pedals and knees.
thank you,
mark |
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Paul Leoni
From:
Mississippi, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2021 6:24 am
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
Rods don't break, cables do!
(Just ask any long-term bike rider.) |
I am a long time bike rider!
Infrequent enough and stretch manageable so as to be a non issue imo, but yes not as strong as a steel rod. Such is the nature of a design/compromise |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2021 10:00 am Re: fender
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| Mark Perrodin wrote: |
hi chris,
i have seen pics of your fender many times but i’ve never seen the copedent. can you please post your tuning? very curious what you’ve done with all ten of those pedals and knees.
thank you,
mark |
Certainly Mark. Let me start by saying there is no reason for ten pedals on a 400 -- at least I could not find one. Also, note that on this chart, there is no D -- string #7 and string #1 have the same high G# in case #1 breaks and so some Mooney licks may be done "in the round" like when we sang "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" in the third grade classroom. Think the Rainy Day Women lick. More Mooney than Mooney.
Usually, the #7 D string was kept.
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Mark Perrodin
From:
Tucson Arizona, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2021 10:18 am fender
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that’s cool. thanks for the answer. i set up my short scale with the top 8 of E9. i wish mine lowered the thirds like yours. real handy with the flatted fifth.
thanks chris.
mark |
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